[Info] Cross breeders

By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
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Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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Please do not advertise sales or items wanted in this topic. I can turn a blind eye to the covers being offered (as long as they are not blatant advertisements) because we are, after all, trying to help each other progress and there is no filter on public covers for searching for crosses, but items sales and items wanted do not belong in any of the public forums and we have a sales forum for horse sales so please, lets keep our topic clean of the ads.

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By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 03:17:08
Very nice Lolita!! default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 03:19:17
Foxy, yes. I've taken a look at quite a few horses and compared them to ones with less stars but used WOYs, and the ones with less stars and WOYs had better skills. But its still pretty good. I have to go for a bit bye!
By lolita43, 13th April 2010 03:20:50
Thanks. default smiley :)

I personally always use woy on crosses. To me part of the point of cross breeding is to get a superior comp horse.
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By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 03:21:24
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By ᴅᴇɴᴀʟɪ, 13th April 2010 03:39:00
I fully deck out my crosses-but even if I didn't go all the way with that, I would for sure always use WoY, otherwise its just pointless. I learned that lesson long ago with one of my first crosses. And had it proved to me when I got a mare back that I gifted someone that did crosses that was quiting the game-she hadn't given her WoY and she is pretty much ruined as far as getting anywere close to what her twin is.
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By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 03:52:58
Thanks for all the helpful advice! default smiley :)

I was never really sure about how or when to use the Woy. Now that I know this, I will use it more often! Thanks again! default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 04:24:30
Just wanted to say that Paintaloosa's Coat actually looks a lot like a Real Life Paintaloosa Filly that I want to buy. Just add spots across her nose and you have the filly that I want pretty much.


Oh and I didn't know when to use WOY either. I do appreciate the advice. Just one question do you guys put WOY on your horses before or after they are 100 blupped? Because I feel like putting it on them before they are 10 years old slows down the Training. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 05:12:39
Here's my new thoroughbreed/arabian cross. I don't think she's that great unfortunately. default smiley (n)

http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=9766634

Let me know your thoughts though...And if someone could tell me what her skill level should mature to, that would be great. She still has to gain her skills in the sloped, and trotting rides, and finish training. Thanks!
By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 05:14:29
Scarlet...I think she's really good! Nice job!! default smiley (7)
By Forest Queen, 13th April 2010 05:18:55
lolly where have I seen that lovely cross before default smiley :p.....still haven't started on his twin though I am supposed to bolt him to a her anyway default smiley xd lol
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By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 06:21:24
I have to say I am loving this new crossbreed forum my partner fionne and I have a fully blupped 23* 762.40gp Arab/Irish hunter mix named Lucky he is under fionne's page default smiley :)

http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=9764566

Here is whistlejacket he is for sale
1014 skilled 750gp Paint/Hano mix
Has great skills in everything but trot

http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=9764566

We are very proud of these guys and are working on a Friesian/Irish Hunter mare for breeding to Whistle default smiley :)

What do you guys think good mix or not?
By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 10:43:57
i reckon that if you do this breeding chart you will get a great SJ comp horse:

Hano + IH = 50% 50%
IH Hano + Paint Hano = 50% 25% 25%
i think this would work since a hano's top skills are : Gallop, Speed & Jump. A Paint's top 3 skills are : Gallop, Speed & Dressage. A IH's top 3 skills are : Gallop, Dressage & Stamina

Speed, Dressage & Jumping are the 3 skills needed to excell in SJ it is easier in this chart default smiley ;)

Paint (Speed) IH (Dressage) Hano (Jump) hano has 50% becuase IHs and paints do not have jumping in there top three skills whereas IHs and Paints have dressage in the top three skills and paint and hanos have speed in there top three skills default smiley ;)

here is a better way again using foundations default smiley ;)

Paint : 90% (speed) 71% (dressage) 69% (gallop)
Hano : 90% (jump) 73% (speed) 68% (gallop)
Irish Hunter : 90% (dressage) 75% (stamina) 70% (gallop)

notice all the 90% they aree the top three skills but then you needed to have them into thirds equally. default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 10:45:40
shame i don't know whether it will work since i will have to spend passes but i will try it out when i have skilled a horse to make money default smiley ;) default smiley xd
By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 11:03:21
for Barrel Racing you could cross:

Paint - Thoroughbred - Irish Hunter

Paint (speed) Thoroughbred (gallop) Irish Hunter (dressage) perfect really default smiley ;) default smiley ;)
By MiataManiac, 13th April 2010 13:09:32
Paintedmare, you want to put WOY on as soon as the horse can start doing lessons. The purpose of using it is to max out lesson gains. So if you wait till it's BLUPed, you will lose a lot of lessons. It does take longer for training etc, but it's worth it.
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By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 13:14:53
I have a question - I know having a timer cuts training in half, but does having a WOY cut it in half again? If you use just a WOY and not a timer, do you still get quicker results because your horse can have twice as many days training before 10 years old? I have always wondered this and you folks seem like the people to ask! default smiley :) Thanks!
By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 13:22:55
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By lolita43, 13th April 2010 13:30:46
Using a woy and not a timer will not give you the same results. It's like training a horse that ages every 2 months without a timer. It will take you until the horse is 20 or so to fully bold it. I have done it and would not recommend it. Very frustrating,

I always put woy on when the horse is 2. Like someone else said, you will miss out on a lot of lessons if you wait until the horse is 10. Kinda defeats the purpose then.
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By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 13:37:39
Thanks lolita, I would put a WOY on a young horse too, otherwise you only get 50% of its use really.

I have a paint mare that I have fully BLUPPED and now had two foals from without a timer and she's still only about 15 default smiley :) She was really easy to BLUP, it's not usually so easy without a timer! LOL.
By thunder76, 13th April 2010 13:47:45
I was in here awhile back and forgot to come back to see if anyone responded. but to many pages later so,

I am breeding Paints / Quarter Horses

and Thoroughbreds / Irish Hunters.

Does anyone have suggestions for me on how to improve these crossbreeds?

Thanks so much!!!!!

thunder76
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By Cryfenril, 13th April 2010 13:57:45
Fat Grey Pony, I have several such crosses up in the auctions right now, if you look under my sales you'll see that I have TONS of babies that are in the 750s and up with lots of stars. I am trimming down the number of horses in my breeding farms because my hiney is starting to hurt from sitting in front of the computer all day, lol/

Painted, I am glad to see she is doing well! She was a fun cross to produce.

default smiley ^)
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By lolita43, 13th April 2010 14:03:51
Tb/Irish hunter is a great cross. I personally like 50% tb/25% hunter/25% arab. Makes a great xc horse and has great dressage. Here is one I bred back in the fall.

Wild At Heart
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By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 20:15:47
Very nice crossbred everyone default smiley :) Ugh, after just reading the last few posts I finally decided to give my horse woy, but she's already 7 years and 2 months. It's going to take forever to finish her training! default smiley :( She only has 900 skills, so hopefully it better be worth it.
By Retired breeder, 13th April 2010 21:27:41
ONLY 900 skills?! i don't have a horse with 900 skills at all. I have one with 800+ skills, but thats the highest.
By Retired breeder, 14th April 2010 00:27:43
Fat Grey Pony,
this topic is for talking about crossbreds and our crossbreeding projects not for advertising. If you are looking to buy a horse you should post it in the purchase forum.
thanks
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