[Info] Cross breeders
By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding. Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful.  */*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* Reminder to all. Please do not advertise sales or items wanted in this topic. I can turn a blind eye to the covers being offered (as long as they are not blatant advertisements) because we are, after all, trying to help each other progress and there is no filter on public covers for searching for crosses, but items sales and items wanted do not belong in any of the public forums and we have a sales forum for horse sales so please, lets keep our topic clean of the ads. Thanks everyone */*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*  There are reasons for rules and everyone is expected to follow them. There will be no posting of advertisements in this topic and everyone is expected to be respectful. Any disrespect towards fellow players or moderators will not be tolerated. Anyone posting advertisements will receive a forum ban without prior warning. If breaking of rules continues to take place in this topic I will delete it. Thank you zepharo *)*)*) Edit by pixiesbite If anyone has personal issues with another player, or needs something back from another player(items/passes), other than covers/fills-please take it to private pms...anymore posting here will mean an instant forum ban without a warning. Edit by pixiesbite A reminder that this is not the place for trading/buying/selling BMI, horses or advertising or asking for someone to train your horse. If any of these things occur, you will be forum banned without prior warning. |
I’m intrigued by cross breeding, and am curious; is it possible for cross breeds on the game to have equal or even higher skills genetically to their purebred counterparts?
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By Retired breeder, 22nd June 2020 23:45:35
Yes. I did a cross about a month back that had a Shetland sire and Selle dam. They have the same skill set, but Selles have a much higher gp. Because the foal takes the breed of the father in a 50/50 cross, the foal showed as a Shetland and had (at that time) the top max. skills for that breed. In fact, for several breeds on this game the top horse is usually a crossbred of some sort. Here's a link to my baby if you're curious. He's still high in the rankings. Well, that's all I know. I hope I was of some help! |
My TB x Appaloosa project turned out this guy - Crimson Cascade
He's currently the top in skills for Appaloosas, which I'm delighted by! He's also won 9 rosettes.
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Yes. The foal's GP is roughly the average of the parents, so so long as the math lets you do it (can't think of a better way to say that  ), being a cross bred will not restrict your GP gain. For an additional example, I've bred two different crosses whose top 3 skills are the opposite of their purebred counterparts. I have a Haflinger cross whose top 3 skills are speed, trot and jump, instead of a purebred Haflinger's stamina, dressage and gallop.
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Hmm interesting...
So for an example, if I wanted to breed a TB with another horse in Gallop, and focus solely on the Gallop skill in genetics, could I eventually go higher than current TB Gallop skills even though they are the top breed in Gallop?
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You could, yes. If you were to breed the top TB (4143 gallop GP) to the 2nd best gallop breed's GP, which looks to be Marwari with a GP of 4114, the foal's gallop would be about 4128, which is still about 20 points behind the top TB. Because you're working with top GP, your GP gain per generation is quite small, so it'd take lots of generations to catch up to the top teams, who produce multiple generations themselves each day.
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Is it possible to use backbreeding when working with crossbreeds? Im thinking if the horses are a 50/50 mix of the two same breeds, and i blup/breed them like i would with a line of purebreeds. Would backbreeding mess with their skillset?
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Foals GP is roughly the average of the parents', so backbreeding alone won't hurt the skill set you've established. I've not done a project like this myself, but I've seen other crossbreeders use the backbreeding method for project lines
 Depending on your cross, you may want to produce siblings to establish your "foundation" line, breed them, and then backbreed from there.
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Thank you so much, Legacy Ann
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So the 2nd generation of my Tennessee Walker project is here ^.^
Shrike 2nd Gen I'm going to be working on gaining a stud so I can dilute the bloodline with more Selle Francis and boost the Jump and Speed
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They are Friesian dominant 50/50 Fri x KWPN. crosses. I am working on a line of them right now. They excel in low-level cross country competitions. I am trying to convince my brothers on here to join me in breeding them but they can't even be bothered to get past the tutorial before they play one of their video games.
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What is a good combination for a cross country horse that does not contain any Gypsy Vanner?
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Well some of my best Gypsys are getting trounced by the occasional
ahel tiki / barb / Russian don cross. Been meaning to try it myself
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What percentages?
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Honestly I do not remember. I just had a few days in a row the same few horses kept beating me and it caught my eye (legit they were the better horses and it wasn't at all malicious or even remotely stomping, just one of those things).
I messaged the breeder about the breed combination because it was so darn interesting, nothing I'd ever thought of. They were very nice but they said it was a team they were on and they weren't comfortable giving advice. Which is totally fair. So much cleaner than my crosses. I might eventually get around to fidgeting with my own percentages.
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I have been mostly using Lusitanos for dressage, but I do want to cross breed a bit more than I have been. Any specific breeds I could use, or really any tips?
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Really that depends on what you want the horse for? Are you just looking for good dressage crosses, or are you meaning that you're wanting to try something besides Lusitanos?
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I haven't been here in forever. I just started back crossbreeding on my US account, but it's been like two years since I've done crossbreeding on this server. So many changes in stats since then, I'm not sure what I want to try out.
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By Retired breeder, 29th June 2020 02:31:45
I want to make a horse that has good skill mixed with every breed possible pm if you want to help me do it
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Anyone know of a QH team willing to offer a covering for a crossbreeder? I asked two already and they turned me down lol.
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What crosses with a Selle have been the best for rosettes in comps?
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KWPNs, for sure. I make my KWPN x Selle crosses KWPN dominant, because that breed has lots of breed only rosette comps. The higher jump and speed genetics brought by the Selle will far outweigh the speed and jump genetics of a purebred KWPN.
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