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By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 03:24:21
Retired breeder wrote:

I think they should make.... MULES on Howrse.... I like mules... but then they would have o coverings because mules cant reproduce. And it would have to be a jenny donkey (female) and a stallion to make a mule... Like in real life... If you do it the other way around then it would be a hinny. Which is a pony sized backwards mule... Sorry.. I love my mules.... default smiley *-)


Donkey's GP goes backwards however that is the opposite for horses. If there were mules, then that will probably mess up the GP system.
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 03:27:05
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Retired breeder wrote:

Let's put it this way... You can't please every individual person. Just like, in elections, You can't have two presidents (Or whatever the position is) just because some people voted for another. There was only one option... Yes or No. Since most of the players wanted Yes, that would be how it got in place. You can't serve two masters. Therefore, the majority vote would rank higher than the lesser one. If the majority of players had voted no, then he answer would have been no. Howrse was giving us what most of them wanted. To help most of the people is better than causing strife by *attempting* to give everyone what they want.My personal opinion, please don't take offense, I didn't mean any.default smiley 8-)


I am not taking offense. It was just my answer to a different post. I realize not everyone can be pleased, it's life default smiley ;). I've been on Howrse since the time of its launch. I've been through every change and decision the staff has made, and stuck with it. I just miss how the game used to be about actual horse care and knowledge. Now we are going to have the option to dress the horse up, or not have the competition bonus. I personally don't think this was a step forward. Of course, we had no idea that it would go down this path, but I'm not giving up on Howrse quite yet.

default smiley ;)
Retired breeder wrote:

Donkey's GP goes backwards however that is the opposite for horses. If there were mules, then that will probably mess up the GP system.


How? Mules are usually unable to reproduce at all.
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By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 03:30:01
By Chaise, 18th March 2014 23:27:28
aquac123 wrote:

Donkey's GP goes backwards however that is the opposite for horses. If there were mules, then that will probably mess up the GP system.


How? Mules are usually unable to reproduce at all.


Horse+donkey=mule
Well since I am NOT an expert on mules, but now I know that mules can't reproduce then how can mules breed and give birth to baby mules? And so on?
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 03:33:03
Retired breeder wrote:

Well since I am NOT an expert on mules, but now I know that mules can't reproduce then how can mules breed and give birth to baby mules? And so on?


They don't. Every mule has horse and donkey parents.
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 03:35:50
Sorry then.

I am not an expert on horse+donkey breeding
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 03:45:32
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MadameEquus wrote:

No, it is NOT optional for those of us with Prix and Rosette horses. We will have to spend even MORE passes to get good rankings. It's bad enough that you now have to use BMI tack, some of which is only available through exchanges, have a falla, be in a +10 bonus EC, have all of the stall bonuses, and element, a GA, and m.blood, plus 20 pieces of cloud with lessons in a 60e center.A finished prix horse won't be worth selling as we can only charge 20 passes right now, and it very well could cost more than that to make one with additional BMI tack bonuses.


Thank you! This sums it up everyone. For a Prix horse, we need to now buy *more* than we already have to. More passes, more work and money to earn those passes. Great. I really don't think this was necessary.default smiley (n)
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By Chaise, 18th March 2014 23:27:28
aquac123 wrote:

Donkey's GP goes backwards however that is the opposite for horses. If there were mules, then that will probably mess up the GP system.


How? Mules are usually unable to reproduce at all.


Horse+donkey=mule
Well since I am NOT an expert on mules, but now I know that mules can't reproduce then how can mules breed and give birth to baby mules? And so on?


They can't.
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By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 03:56:56
Im pretty sure that mules can reproduce.....
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 03:57:07
cant * my bad
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 04:03:27
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OK, so, here is a rating system that i have picked up on. on top is new, bottom is old coats. thumbs up means likes change, thumps down means dislikes change.

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Arabian Horse

VS. Thumbs up!




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Thoroughbreds
VS. default smiley (n)




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Curly
VS. Thumbs up!




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Akhal-Tekes
VS. Thumbs up!




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Mustang
VS. Thumbs down.




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Gypsy Vanner
VS. default smiley (n)




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Shetlands
VS. Thumbs up!




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Friesian
VS. Thumbs down.




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Nokota
VS. Thumbs up!




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Appaloosa, Argentinean Criollo, Paint Horse, Quarter Horse
VS. THUMBS DOWN!!!!! No no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!



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Barb, Canadian horse, Lusitano, Peruvian Paso, Purebred Spanish Horse
VS. default smiley (y)default smiley (7)



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Hanoverian, Holsteiner, Irish Hunter,KWPN, Russian Don Horse
VS. default smiley (y)



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Brumby, Icelandic Horse
VS. Thumbs down.




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Hackney, Morgan, Standardbred, Tennessee Walker
VS. Thumbs up!



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Knabstrupper
VS. default smiley (y)



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Trakehner
VS. Thumbs UP!



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Fjord
VS. they look about the same to me. so... default smiley (y)



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Welsh, Connemara, Quarter Pony, Australian Pony
VS. Thumbs upp!



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Brumby, Newfoundland Pony
VS. Up!

By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 04:08:32
Retired breeder wrote:

OK, so, here is a rating system that i have picked up on. on top is new, bottom is old coats. thumbs up means likes change, thumps down means dislikes change.

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Arabian Horse

VS. Thumbs up!




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Thoroughbreds
VS. default smiley (n)




Click to display


Curly
VS. Thumbs up!




Click to display


Akhal-Tekes
VS. Thumbs up!




Click to display


Mustang
VS. Thumbs down.




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Gypsy Vanner
VS. default smiley (n)




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Shetlands
VS. Thumbs up!




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Friesian
VS. Thumbs down.




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Nokota
VS. Thumbs up!




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Appaloosa, Argentinean Criollo, Paint Horse, Quarter Horse
VS. THUMBS DOWN!!!!! No no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!



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Barb, Canadian horse, Lusitano, Peruvian Paso, Purebred Spanish Horse
VS. default smiley (y)default smiley (7)



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Hanoverian, Holsteiner, Irish Hunter,KWPN, Russian Don Horse
VS. default smiley (y)



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Brumby, Icelandic Horse
VS. Thumbs down.




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Hackney, Morgan, Standardbred, Tennessee Walker
VS. Thumbs up!



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Knabstrupper
VS. default smiley (y)



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Trakehner
VS. Thumbs UP!



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Fjord
VS. they look about the same to me. so... default smiley (y)



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Welsh, Connemara, Quarter Pony, Australian Pony
VS. Thumbs upp!



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Brumby, Newfoundland Pony
VS. Up!


Most of the new coats looks weird(in my opinion)
default smiley (o)
The only new ones I like, are Fjord,Warmbloods, and Akhal-Tekes.
The new GV coat looks okay default smiley :s
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 04:23:12
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Retired breeder wrote:

OK, so, here is a rating system that i have picked up on. on top is new, bottom is old coats. thumbs up means likes change, thumps down means dislikes change.


Thank you very much for posting thisdefault smiley :) It is actually helpful. It helped me realize that the new coats will be just fine. No, they aren't perfect, but most of them are improving - which is good enough for me.

Once again, just wanted to say thank you!
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 04:25:40
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Miss Blue wrote:

Omg. I am simply speechless. There are few words allowed on this forum that will suffice to describe my utter horror at some of these new coats.

Having been a card-carrying, certified all-breed judge, with credentials in 16 breeds, I have judged many a halter class. The "horses" depicted in most of these new coats would not only have not won a trophy, points, or even a 4-H ribbon, they would have generated open guffaws from the audience, judges, exhibitors, and anyone else happening to stroll by.

Having bred quarterhorses personally, which were exported to 8 countries, personally producing 2 world champions, and having bred Arabians, producing regional and National top five horses while producing over 100 foals - I can tell you, the images of both breed are a disgrace. Particularly the refugee-from-a-slaughterhouse quarterhorse image.

Horrifying. Utterly horrifying. What makes it far worse is that many first-year art students could do far better. My god.


I completely agree with you. I help train and breed very good and expensive QH reiners, and that horse looks sickly! I don't know where they got their sources for that one, but it wouldn't have been hard to do better. I hope that this doesn't come to Howrse, or they at least fix this. It makes me very sad.
NMHORSELOVER wrote:

Yes, but not ever player wants to play horsey dress up or waste resources on such a feature. I would have rather seen something else come to the game . Yes it is optional but it will still be an annoyance.


I absolutely agree. I will not be playing howrsey dress-up except for if I have to with my G-Prix Skillors. Just like now, I never do Beach rides and I didn't do pests when they had them except for my G-Prix Skillors. These all were/are/willbe a waste of time, energy and equus/passes. default smiley (li)
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Noooo.....my poor poor Friesians! default smiley (n) Argh stupid wearable tack ruining coats.
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I quite personally prefer most of the old coats on these. The new horses look kinda.... How to put this lightly... Lifeless and boxy. I mean, I hate losing the fluffyness of all the horses. All hroses I have ever met have had hooves more fluffy and nice looking than some of the coats new faces. No offence to anyone but to me the new horse looks are not exactly..... Nice to look at. Some are actually nice, I love the new Knabby, Arabs, tekes and nokotas. But the others not so much. The Quarters look sickly to me. I mean, that looks like my neighbors horse before she passed away from colic and old age. I understand the push for tack to be on the horses, but can we keep the fluffiness of the Gypsys. I mean come on, the last time I saw a gypsy like that was when the barn master attacked her horse Lilly with a hair straightener. And some of their heads are way to big, they are gonna fall over default smiley xd

To sum it up, a majority of these coats actually suck... I have never thought that about any horses appearences on howrse before so just... No... default smiley (n)
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I don't understand people's objections to the tack... It's not like we don't already have to give our horses a saddle, bridle and horseshoes in order to enter them in competitions. The only difference between now and when it's implemented, from what I understand, is there'll we some additional pieces and they can appear on the horse (if we choose to display it that way) as opposed to having them floating in a box on the side of the horses page.
I personally find wearable tack more immersive and have been hoping howrse would add something like that to the game from the time I first started.

If someone has an actual good reason for it being a bad idea I would love to hear it because right now all I hear is naysaying and it's becoming extremely tedious.
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Neferka wrote:

I don't understand people's objections to the tack... It's not like we don't already have to give our horses a saddle, bridle and horseshoes in order to enter them in competitions. The only difference between now and when it's implemented, from what I understand, is there'll we some additional pieces and they can appear on the horse (if we choose to display it that way) as opposed to having them floating in a box on the side of the horses page.
I personally find wearable tack more immersive and have been hoping howrse would add something like that to the game from the time I first started.

If someone has an actual good reason for it being a bad idea I would love to hear it because right now all I hear is naysaying and it's becoming extremely tedious.


Its more money. Both in equus and passes because more normal items means more BMIs of the same items with more bonuses so skillers will become more expensive to make and thus cost more to buy. Also this will cause an even worse inflation and fluctuation of power within howrses economy twards players with seemingly endless resources shutting out newer and less experienced and less active players into the dark as far as the huge GP race that has been raging for quite some time now. Howrse keeps adding all these *New and amazing things* But it all is stuff thats like the american economy. The rich are getting richer and the poor are scraping by dreaming of having just a bit of what they have. Sure its hard work, but its a lot of luck and real money a lot of people just dont have. I have been an honest player and only recently is my game getting to the point where I can sacrifice most of my horses to get the money to get a divine, over 820 days into the game. But ya know, this is just my experience with the game and these new features. And on top of that, these coats the are going to use for it are a disgrace to horses all over the world, to say the LEAST.... I will quit flat out if they are released as is.
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By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 08:35:22
I'm not even going to bother writing a long paragraph about the coats and the tack. To me, they're simply not worth the trouble. Some of them look nice, but others... Well.
default smiley (n) for this new idea update thingy.
Miss Blue wrote:

Write this down, kids.

The matching tack/bonuses will end up becoming pass items. Mark my words. We currently have only one tack option in the black market. Anyone who thinks Howrse won't be adding "special" leg wraps, bonnets, etc to the black market does not know how this game works.

Yep 100% agree. Of course it will be a pass option.
And if you do not put it on your skiller it will have to struggle even more against top GP horses.

MadameEquus wrote:

A finished prix horse won't be worth selling as we can only charge 20 passes right now, and it very well could cost more than that to make one with additional BMI tack bonuses.

Exactly Equistrienne.
Now we get to spend even more passes to fully tack up a good horse.

I simply hate what they have done to a lot of the breeds default smiley :-x
I like the curly.
The Knabs ugh needs another makeover. I love how they look now. No need to change them.
The Teke need to be more shiny. The lovely Marwari more shiny as well....as for some of the others

All right a little comparison...howrse artists please pay attention ....good lord.
To darn depressing to find pics of them all, but here are a few

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grief that is not an Icelandic horse...howrse artists



An Icelandic looks like so.......notice the difference anyone default smiley :-x
They have huge manes and tails...as in a LOT of hair. Their do not look like the above at all.





Thoroughbred do so NOT look like this




Gypsy Vanner - dang do not use that one. Its fine for the new draft horse, if we get it. But for a Vanner. No just NO





Friesian - needs MOARE hair...and it's black. Black NOT grey





Nokota...ugh




Quarter horse - is by far the worst makeover of the lot. What have you done to the poor horse. It literally makes me cringe



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By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 09:42:36
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-starfire-__ wrote:

I quite personally prefer most of the old coats on these. The new horses look kinda.... How to put this lightly... Lifeless and boxy. I mean, I hate losing the fluffyness of all the horses. All hroses I have ever met have had hooves more fluffy and nice looking than some of the coats new faces. No offence to anyone but to me the new horse looks are not exactly..... Nice to look at. Some are actually nice, I love the new Knabby, Arabs, tekes and nokotas. But the others not so much. The Quarters look sickly to me. I mean, that looks like my neighbors horse before she passed away from colic and old age. I understand the push for tack to be on the horses, but can we keep the fluffiness of the Gypsys. I mean come on, the last time I saw a gypsy like that was when the barn master attacked her horse Lilly with a hair straightener. And some of their heads are way to big, they are gonna fall over default smiley xd

To sum it up, a majority of these coats actually suck... I have never thought that about any horses appearences on howrse before so just... No... default smiley (n)


agreed!
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 10:48:08
Retired breeder wrote:

So I am going to try this too!

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Arabian Horse

VS. default smiley (l)




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Thoroughbreds
VS. default smiley (y)




Click to display


Curly
VS. default smiley (y)




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Akhal-Tekes
VS. default smiley (y)default smiley (l)




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Mustang
VS. default smiley (n)default smiley (b)




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Gypsy Vanner
VS. default smiley (b)default smiley (d) NOOO




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Shetlands
VS. NO NO NO! HORRIBLE! default smiley (n)




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Friesian
VS. nope.....




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Nokota
VS. default smiley (y) Might start breeding them then default smiley :-))




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Appaloosa, Argentinean Criollo, Paint Horse, Quarter Horse
VS. I love it!!! Hate the old version! They'll look great with tack!



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Barb, Canadian horse, Lusitano, Peruvian Paso, Purebred Spanish Horse
VS. default smiley (y)



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Hanoverian, Holsteiner, Irish Hunter,KWPN, Russian Don Horse
VS. default smiley (n)



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Brumby, Icelandic Horse
VS. YES




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Hackney, Morgan, Standardbred, Tennessee Walker
VS. default smiley (y)



Click to display


Knabstrupper
VS. default smiley (y) default smiley (l)



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Trakehner
VS. I think they looked so innocent...



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Fjord
VS. skinnier legs, better colour! default smiley (y)



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Welsh, Connemara, Quarter Pony, Australian Pony
VS. yes!!



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Brumby, Newfoundland Pony
VS. Good job!

By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 11:21:45
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Do we even need wearable tack?
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 11:34:40
Retired breeder wrote:

OK, so, here is a rating system that i have picked up on. on top is new, bottom is old coats. thumbs up means likes change, thumps down means dislikes change.

Click to display


Arabian Horse

VS. Thumbs up!




Click to display


Thoroughbreds
VS. default smiley (n)




Click to display


Curly
VS. Thumbs up!




Click to display


Akhal-Tekes
VS. Thumbs up!




Click to display


Mustang
VS. Thumbs down.




Click to display


Gypsy Vanner
VS. default smiley (n)




Click to display


Shetlands
VS. Thumbs up!




Click to display


Friesian
VS. Thumbs down.




Click to display


Nokota
VS. Thumbs up!




Click to display


Appaloosa, Argentinean Criollo, Paint Horse, Quarter Horse
VS. THUMBS DOWN!!!!! No no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!



Click to display


Barb, Canadian horse, Lusitano, Peruvian Paso, Purebred Spanish Horse
VS. default smiley (y)default smiley (7)



Click to display

Hanoverian, Holsteiner, Irish Hunter,KWPN, Russian Don Horse
VS. default smiley (y)



Click to display


Brumby, Icelandic Horse
VS. Thumbs down.




Click to display

Hackney, Morgan, Standardbred, Tennessee Walker
VS. Thumbs up!



Click to display


Knabstrupper
VS. default smiley (y)



Click to display


Trakehner
VS. Thumbs UP!



Click to display


Fjord
VS. they look about the same to me. so... default smiley (y)



Click to display


Welsh, Connemara, Quarter Pony, Australian Pony
VS. Thumbs upp!



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Brumby, Newfoundland Pony
VS. Up!



I agree with everything you said.default smiley :d
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