[Info] NIB Horses
By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world  Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place! What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games. Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs  Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale. The NIB FAQ: What is a NIB horse? A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees. Are there green star NIB horses? These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth. **Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for! Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses? Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way. How can I get involved with NIB breeding? It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred! - Current Top GPs for NIB Horses: (bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP) Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*) Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen Barbs: 392.93 (1*) Brumbies: 441.30 (2*) Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen Donkeys: 300.42 Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*) Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*) Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*) Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*) Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen KWPN: 414.32 (1*) Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*) Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*) Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen Morgans: 411.95 (1*) Mustangs: 419.50 (1*) Nokota : 427.57 (2*) Paints: 461.44 (2*) Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*) Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*) Russian Don: 636.94 (13*) Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*) Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*) Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen Trakhener: 432.77 (1*) Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen Connemaras: 440.00 (2*) Fjords: 447.42 (1*) Haflingers: 496.41 (4*) Highland Pony: 409.22 Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*) Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*) Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen Welsh: 415.59 (1*) Percherons: 503.74 (3*) Shires: 461.15 (2*) Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*) - Current Top GPs for NIB Horses: (bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP) Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen Curlys: 4480.67 (391*) Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen Knabstruppers: 3611.72 Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*) Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*) Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*) Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen Rivenwood's update schedule: Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!** Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed: My NIB GP Entry Horse's Name: Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Current GP: Link to the Horse's Page: |
I think Russian Dons are one of the more rare breeds in general. They are one of the only breeds that I don't have at least one foundation of. I also had a lot of trouble getting my first Russian Don unicorn (not NIB or anything) but that was also back in 2017... lol
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Yeah, RDHs are a nightmare to find! Think my Hipparion chucked out a few as I didn't really have any, NIB or not. Hit me up and we can take a look at what ones I've got, Asfridur!
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Oh wow I can't believe Boone's nibing rolling gypsies, right I'm on the job. I'm under 30 days seniority so have Gaia foals available. Oh and how did nibbers my account is new but I'm an old howrsey
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Darn... this might be my shortest NIB line to date then
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Thank you HYDEIST 
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Thanks Twinjodi for the pixels!!
Now I have a few more precious ones Not so active right now - health stuff. But determined to up a NIB entry come Saturday - so going to set a reminder on my phone. Old age syndrome 
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My entries are both rolling. But I have Curly, Paint, TB and Lippie classic founded in blupping if anyone needs. Can't access private sales yet though but just message me and I'll note it
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one day too early.. seriously Asfridur
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Webbinators, both the horses you submitted are foundies - they don't count towards the rankings, since they are generated by the game and not bred by a player. But if you get pairs of those foundies & breed them, you'll be in business!
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Hi, just a quick question since I’m really bad at math lol: if I wanna start a NIB project from scratch how many “first generation” horses so to say do I need to buy in order to avoid eventual inbreeding? Like I don’t want to use public coverings, I want all the breeding to be from the horses I personally own if that makes sense. Hope I explained it well enough
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Here's the generational pyramid. So it really depends on how many generations that you want to breed/have.
2 horses/1 pair is one generation 4 horses/2 pair is two generations 8 horses/4 pair is three generations 16 horses/8 pair is four generations 32 horses/16 pair is five generations 64 horses/32 pairs is six generations 128 horses/64 pair is seven generations 256 horses/128 pair is eight generations 512 horses/256 pair is nine generations
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Yeah no problem! Hope that helps!
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I really wish howrse would give us an easier way to find foundation horses
 Depressed I can see some old GP Russian Dons in sales... too expensive pass wise... But on a positive note I actually managed to find an RG Russian Don 
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There I was finally thinking I had 2 blupped 4th gen drums, so I could have a mate for my only 5th gen..... I fail ... it was a 2nd gen
Yea been a while since I've worked them. But I do have a 4th gen foal does that count? 
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Hi there!
Is anyone raising Percherons, or have filler Perchs to help me with comps?
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Send me a pm so we can arrange time to get together.
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Can't believe this Finn was being sold as a pass horse (or what used to be a pass horse), aged 30+ years. Fortunately, he'd not had any rides or training done, so as far as I know, no skills lost. Burned some APs and he's blupped now. Satisfying rescue job!
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Nice rescue Sadly just another example of how pointless the GP change was on the foundies. But since we got the comp changes as well, I guess it was the only way to try and fix something that was unfixable
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