[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 05:06:31
Wait...im really confused now default smiley (lol). So Livelyblueeyes your saying you can have a foal witch morthers had the same sires or that the foal can have the the uh! Ya'll just got to tell me like im a child....or a monkey...yeah monkey would be better default smiley (lol)
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 10:13:28
I have just bred two Black PB Barb Colts. Their parents are foundation and I was just wondering whether or not you would call them NIB's or not?

-s+cdefault smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 10:49:51
Yes, if the parents are both Foundations then the foal is NIB. default smiley :)
By Rymskynx, 28th November 2009 12:58:30
I've found excel to be a helpful tool in keeping track of my lines. If anyone is interested in how organize things to help them develop their own system, I've put screenshots of my records on photobucket for a couple other players and would be happy to share them with others. Just drop me a message if you'd be interested and I'll send you a link to them. Happy Howrsing!

Rymskynx
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By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 13:33:54
I am very new to NIB breeding and would like to try with Welsh ponies (my Foundation mare is Welsh) if you use a stud then find that a few generations behind him there are to Disappeared horses does this present a problem. The studs name included the words Welsh NIB's
christine5
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 13:36:26
OK going to try and show what I said visually speaking
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 13:37:43
Not sure if that last post helps any but that is a rough idea of why you can have more of a specific gender and not have them at equal numbers.
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 13:46:15
Sadly with NIB's disappeared parents happen a fair but .. however.. it is considered undesirable to have those. I will not lie I have havened a few of my own horses in the past due to Disappeared parents.
At one point those parents would sometimes appears as ouranos and Gaia when they disappeared. No clue why it did that but it did.
On a technicality it's kinda like in real breeding where you are breeding pure bred horses and you have a leaper stallion cross with your mare.
( Leaper stallions as in one who just jumps the fence). You have no clue as to the parentage of the stallion therefore you would be unable to register the foal.
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 14:17:33
You can prevent disappeared horses showing up in the family history by either only breeding with your own stock from foundations upwards and keeping every horse you have bred from (this is what I do) or only buying in stock/using covers from players you trust not to delete their account (as this is what causes disappeared horses).
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 15:32:26
I have not had any disappeared lines since my first batch of NIBs. Since then I have kept primarily to my own stock,HYDEIST,kaliko99 and a couple of others. Basicly, as you said trusted breeders.
Hehe I have tried hard to get back a lot of my first NIB horses I bred that ended up with a disappeared parent or two. I generally remove my affix from them and then resell.
By Adnil29, 28th November 2009 16:33:25
I have been looking for a Foundation or safe NIB Welsh colt to buy (no luck so far) can any one send me in the right direction to a Welsh NIB breeder who might have a colt they would sell, unfortunatley only have 1 pass to buy with.
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By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 18:15:50
Hey all...alright a NIB site finally...Im a NIB Hano breeder and have been since the beginning but it looks like there isnt many of us out there anymore...This is a great site riven...Keep up all the good work everyone and Happy Howrsing..default smiley :-))
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 18:19:21
also for the database if you go in The Original NIBs List it has the database on there..
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 19:05:28
I am happy for anyone to pm me for my blupping programme for my NIB connies. I beleive it will be similar to other ones in use, so might not be of great interest to seasoned NIBers but for those starting out or those who havent worked out a good blupping shedule, i think it will be of use default smiley :d
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 19:35:19
Adnil29, about the best spot to find foundation horses is the auctions. No passes are required there but I warn you sometimes the bidding can get up on there on a good horse.
As for the NIB welshies. The breeder directory can come in handy there. I have used it in the past to locate other NIB breeders. default smiley :) It is how I came across Kaliko and HYDEISt who I do not know what I would do without default smiley :)>
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 19:36:07
O and remember guys if you have any NIB horses fro sale I have my EC forums dedicated to that use.
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 20:23:26
I am loving livelyblueyes NIB sales in her EC forum. I have been and listed a very special Connie foal default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 20:47:44
Okay now i get what your trying to say liveyblueeyes. I guess i'm more of a visuall person like my momma : ). Thank you for the help default smiley :)
By vag111, 28th November 2009 21:06:12
Yes! Sahara now has 15 wins! Can't wait 'til he gets to 20! Dressage is bolded, but I still need to do speed, gallop, and stamina. Hopefully that won't take too long. This is about the time when I start wishing I had passes and a Timer. Oh well. Surprise presents are always nice! Haha.default smiley ;)
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By vag111, 28th November 2009 21:09:24
I'm also looking for a NIB breeding partner for Brumbies. If anyone is interested please PM me.
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By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 21:28:11
My NIB GP Entry

Horse's Name: Rudy / NIB / {M} Waddy Ponies
Horse's Breed: Barb
Current GP: 352.46 (He is new born so does the GP count?)
Link to the Horse's page: http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=8698173
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 21:48:47
saddle+club - his GP won't count until he is 1 year 8 months and his games are finished. But you have a day to get him 100% gamed, then you can submit his GP default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2009 23:40:55
My mare gave birth to the first NIB Barb foal I have bred. Not as good as yours, though, saddle+club. Good job on that one! default smiley :)
By ChuckieGirl, 29th November 2009 01:17:14
Wish I had stayed with NIBs from the beginning. Seems like a fun challenge! Oh well. This forum is interesting anyway. Keep up the good workdefault smiley (y)
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By Retired breeder, 29th November 2009 01:38:07
Thanks Moondale.default smiley :)
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