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yeah, could someone update us on what's going on? or is there a masterpost or something?
Just a note on this "change" for those unaware
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the information has been posted by the Ow on the Czech and I think Italian server as well. I created an account on the first to see what was going on and it looks like this pass change will begin testing over there in November(we won't see it here in November from what I can tell). The community on that server is...not happy...about it. The details are still somewhat sketchy such as what the divine actually does, whether we will only have 10 passes a month instead of the current possible 30 etc. That information will supposedly be posted there next week. We also don't know if this change will be applied over here or when. Most of it is speculation at this point until the Admin here post something about it.
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I'm sorry, Howrse, but you're about to lose more customers than you could possible imagine.
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By Retired breeder, 13th October 2016 23:52:10
I have a question
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Does Greyfell count towards the Divine?
I'm sorry howrse but I'm really dissapointed in this change.
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I've stayed on this game for so many years, and through so many changes.
But this?
10 passes a month at max?
Howrse, what on earth is wrong with you? Do you think it makes sense at all?
The VIP account costs 10 passes a month. Unless you flip horses, we cannot maintain that account and have extra passes for anything else. I've always assured people you can succeeded without buying passes, but right now? No. This is terrible, and it's absolutely disgusting. As someone who needs about 20 passes per month on getting all the new 100-use GA coats, I could even collect RC horses anymore, let alone support the VIP account.

Honestly, Howrse, you are awful. I've never been this disappointed in you. I'm absolutely ashamed and revolted by your awful, disgusting methods.
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By Retired breeder, 14th October 2016 00:07:26
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I don't see how they are gonna make it work, Howrse, please hear us out, this is not good or even sanely plausible!

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I say we should make a petition to stop this and send it to Ow, I'm sorry but this can't be done. Message me if you think we should do a petition
By Retired breeder, 14th October 2016 00:08:20
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If this new pass system is implemented, I will be absolutely furious. I hardly have time to log on every day as it is. I do not have the free time to spend 20-30 minutes a day trying to win points that may or not count toward passes. Having the monetary/free pass (can't remember what it's called right now) per 300 something points is hard enough to complete. default smiley :( I haven't even gotten a pass from it yet! If this change comes here to INT, I will definitely quit because there would no longer be any reason for me to stay here. The only way I obtain -any- passes at all is from my very few pass horses.default smiley (n)
By Retired breeder, 14th October 2016 00:12:35
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I think I figured out why Howrse is doing this. I don't know if this should be in a spoiler but better safe than sorry!default smiley xd
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Promos have become impossible to win without passes. And by changing pass methods so much, it's become obvious to me what they're doing. Remember when for a few days we couldn't edit our presentations? You know how we don't know what we have to do to earn pass points? And that horrible new pass horse rule is terrible! Well, I think Howrse is trying to force us to buy passes. We can't do almost anything without buying passes now!
By Retired breeder, 14th October 2016 00:13:21
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I don't see how they are gonna make it work, Howrse, please hear us out, this is not good or even sanely plausible!

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I say we should make a petition to stop this and send it to Ow, I'm sorry but this can't be done. Message me if you think we should do a petition
The game doesn't listen to petitions, trust me, I've tried many times.
By Retired breeder, 14th October 2016 00:20:34
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It is just so sad. They are hardly doing this to make it more fair as they claim, they are simply doing it to make people buy passes by taking all the means to play without. I was here when Howrse was in its early days and there were a lot less free things but this was more balanced back then as the game wasn't as competitive. It saddens me that the game I signed up to when I was a young girl has turned into such a money grab.

I defended a lot of this games decisions, but even I feel that they are going too far in their greed. So much for loyalty.
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I think I figured out why Howrse is doing this. I don't know if this should be in a spoiler but better safe than sorry!


Yes, I agree. It's also quite clear that they are losing more money than ever - so they keep doing things out of desperation, without realizing that those are the exact reasons why so many players are leaving.
This game use to be much more active. The amount of players has decreased so much. They've dug their own grave, and if they don't realize how awful their tactics are soon, this site won't be along much longer.
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A little more to add to my lengthy essay rant a few pages back:
Howrse DOES realize players are leaving; but they stubbornly continue to think that if they keep adding divines and changing things around, they'll slow down the amount of players leaving. And by putting the new shinies up the players will want to buy passes. It is SO RIDICULOUS. Honestly, Howrse, you should just STOP. Stop the stupid little games, claiming you want to "make things more fair, blah blah blah, reward loyal players." It is VERY clear all you want is money, and I don't understand why you don't just keelhaul the opportunity to get free passes altogether. Yes, it would cause uproar. Many players would leave the game. But better than slow torturing us by slowly cutting down on our passes now, and continuing to do it. After all, your only goal is money, why don't you just cut to the chase already?
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@ xx-silence-xx,


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I've stayed on this game for so many years, and through so many changes.
But this?
10 passes a month at max?
Howrse, what on earth is wrong with you? Do you think it makes sense at all?
The VIP account costs 10 passes a month. Unless you flip horses, we cannot maintain that account and have extra passes for anything else. I've always assured people you can succeeded without buying passes, but right now? No. This is terrible, and it's absolutely disgusting. As someone who needs about 20 passes per month on getting all the new 100-use GA coats, I could even collect RC horses anymore, let alone support the VIP account.

Honestly, Howrse, you are awful. I've never been this disappointed in you. I'm absolutely ashamed and revolted by your awful, disgusting methods.


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First I have survived with just 10 passes from pass horses which pay for my VIP. I never went beyond that 10.

Second I didn't even really have the option of the 1 free ( reserve based) pass.

Third. This is being voted on at another server so speculation on the outcome of that voting seems premature to me.

Most of the people ( not you actually but others) posting negative comments on this thread when I look at their profile page have done little to nothing and not even used the resources available to them.
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You're right. A lot of players don't use the full amount of pass horses. And if the VIP account didn't exist? I really wouldn't even care. It's just so hard to afford the VIP account and continue collecting at the same time if this happens.
*cries intensely*

I think at least, they should either let us get 15-20 a month...or lower the VIP account to only cost 5 passes. And maybe lower the Pegasus account to 1 pass?
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By Retired breeder, 14th October 2016 00:50:15
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I agree silence about lowering the VIP accounts cost. Considering people have to either work very hard to get that ranking or buy 100 passes, 10 passes a month seems really over priced, especially considering it is meant to "reward" loyal players.
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I'm mutual with the change so far.

I very rarely use passes for everything I do, so I'm constantly forgetting to take care of my pass horses. Almost everything I have on my account I have earned with equus I have saved. To me, this will be a little bit easier for me to save up passes for something I really want. I used to have a PA, but yet again, with me forgetting to take care of my future pass horses, I had to scramble and use many AP's to get those three passes in time. (I'm lazy when it comes to ap farming and pass horses)

I do see where many of the senior players are coming from and understand the frustration. But, as Spyder said, sometimes you have to struggle until you learn new tricks and ways to fund your game. (I also agree with Spyder's last sentence)

Being that we haven't gotten a lot of info on this change yet, I can't really state many opinions on it. I see it as another change I have to get use to and adjust my game with. Not much else I can do about it.
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Tigress26 wrote:

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IBut, as Spyder said, sometimes you have to struggle until you learn new tricks and ways to fund your game.


[spoiler] No offense meant, but I've been plaything this game for 7 years and am quite happy with the way I play my game. I have learned many tricks, but it's still not very fair that I can't continue to do the method I've always done.

I forgot to mention this earlier, but the market will completely change with pass horses no longer owning any value. They are a big part of the game, not just for people who want 10 passes per month, but also those who rarely kill them and instead sell them for equus. ]/spoiler]
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I think what truly bothers me the most about the whole situation is the fact we don't have a complete picture. They know that the are messing with a very important aspect of many people's games yet they still refuse to tell us everything. Instead they keep us in the dark on what needs to be done in order to fill the bar to get the passes we depend on, even thought it has been lowered to a third of the original amount. Not only that but the introduction of a new shiny that attempts to try to keep the value of current pass horses means nothing when we have no clue what it even does. That unknown is what sucks and I wonder if they were a bit more upfront in the first place would the reaction be as bad as it is?
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@ silence

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No offense taken. I've been playing a total of 5 years (previous account) and understand the frustration of the game constantly changing. Especially when there is no benefit to it's members, only the employees pockets. I do agree that it is unfair and ridiculous to "fix" something that isn't broken. Even though this change may not negatively affect my game, I know it will affect many player's games who depend on the current pass system for funds. I know that it's hard to get passes from sales since the economy has gotten in a rough spot. If the divine is useless, like many recent ones have been, then all the money spent on buying pass horses would have been a major waste.

If you have to send 10 pass horses to heaven once for the divine, yes, the market will suffer. But, if players have to send them every month, then I think the market will be okay, at least for a while.

I do think it's a great idea to lower special account prices if this change is implemented, since you would now be limited on the amount of passes.

But, like I said, I can't really say much since we don't have a lot of info on it. It may not even happen since updates didn't happen in the past because 90% of players were against the idea. But, believe me, I do understand your frustration.
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I agree with one thing hoarse is doing- releasing new divines, true some players don't like them but others do. Think about this the way they release the divines with the good perks we can eventually earn back what we spent on the promo,plus what would you do if you have done everything you could on the game, the new divines add some good and bad things to howrse.
Take a minute to think about all the pros, and cons.

( my personal opinion so please don't complain about it thanks)
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Tigress26 wrote:

@ silence


Yeah, I agree with you!
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By Retired breeder, 14th October 2016 02:13:27
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Well, I guess if nothing else, the C_ promo coming back will be fun. The Divine looks really neat, too. Maybe I'll have some passes to splurge on trying to get it if I get close enough. default smiley :)
This seems extremely stupid and really, Howrse, its pretty obvious you're just trying to get more money out of this. I've been playing for years. Granted I took a few years break and restarted an account because of so many changes but.... doing this? Thats ridiculous.

Pass horses are a great way to generate income. Selling easily 200k if they have MA! Or for truly dedicated players, thats how they get their VIP!!! 10 passes a month is honestly EXTREMELY expensive in my opinion but hey, for the perks, I'm willing to spend that. Im fortunate enough to have a job that allows me to splurge on a 100 pack of passes every now and again but i LOVE the free 10 I manage to get.

This is low. Disappointed in Howrse. I understand this has gotten very popular and naturally you want the more money flow but you're doing damage with this.
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Can I just restate what I said before, because I feel that if howrse sees this and they changed their plan a little, the new implementations could work for everyone. I feel like the whole pass thing could be a good idea if they left the ability to get pass horses too, but still restrict the free passes to 10 a month .For example, let's say I have 6 pass horses and I send them to heaven, but for the rest of the month I can play my game normally, maybe miss a few days, etc., but still be able to get the remaining 4 passes for the month based on my actions in the game without needing pass horses. At the same time if there was some promo and I wanted 10 passes at once I could just use 10 passes to get to my monthly limit, and not use any of the loyal players pass. I don't know I just feel that if howrse does something like this, they should try to help players who play the game both ways default smiley :)
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*Grabs popcorn and agrees with 99.9% of comments*
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