[Info] NIB Horses
By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world  Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place! What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games. Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs  Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale. The NIB FAQ: What is a NIB horse? A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees. Are there green star NIB horses? These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth. **Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for! Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses? Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way. How can I get involved with NIB breeding? It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred! - Current Top GPs for NIB Horses: (bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP) Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*) Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen Barbs: 392.93 (1*) Brumbies: 441.30 (2*) Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen Donkeys: 300.42 Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*) Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*) Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*) Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*) Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen KWPN: 414.32 (1*) Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*) Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*) Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen Morgans: 411.95 (1*) Mustangs: 419.50 (1*) Nokota : 427.57 (2*) Paints: 461.44 (2*) Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*) Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*) Russian Don: 636.94 (13*) Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*) Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*) Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen Trakhener: 432.77 (1*) Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen Connemaras: 440.00 (2*) Fjords: 447.42 (1*) Haflingers: 496.41 (4*) Highland Pony: 409.22 Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*) Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*) Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen Welsh: 415.59 (1*) Percherons: 503.74 (3*) Shires: 461.15 (2*) Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*) - Current Top GPs for NIB Horses: (bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP) Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen Curlys: 4480.67 (391*) Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen Knabstruppers: 3611.72 Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*) Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*) Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*) Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen Rivenwood's update schedule: Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!** Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed: My NIB GP Entry Horse's Name: Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Current GP: Link to the Horse's Page: |
So you have the traditional pyramid style breeding that I think most of us are familiar with. For instance, 8 pairs of foundations to make 4 pairs of 1st gens, 2 pairs of 2nd gens, 1 pair 3rd gen resulting in a final 4th gen.
The other style of breeding that I believe others have messed around with but isn't talked about much (I am doing a project right now that I have been bringing up a bit lately on the NIB Discord channel) is the line breeding. Starting with a foundation pair (or low GP RGs), each generation is then bred to a new foundation. This works well with the new RG foundations as the GP continuously grows. This method requires considerably less foundation stock, but can be a bit more confusing starting out than a pyramid bred project. This can also be combined with a completed or branch off of a pyramid.
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oic of course! We have talked about that way of breeding before. It had just completely slipped my mind
 Does make sense to do, especially since the GP is all over the place
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Unfortunately I lately not sure that would work with OG breeding.
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There may be ways to find some of the lower GP foundations to tie into the OGs but it will be getting harder to get the numbers required to balance out. Also the latest foundation GP drop for me was 8560!! Which is... a shock compared to the 350s
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8560
 I always get so shocked when I hear how high the gp has skyrocketed
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Hope everyone is being successful with their projects and progressing forward!
My projects have been plugging along. Putting focus on my 60 BLUP Newfie project and my 60/100 BLUP Standie project it seems. Would be nice to see those get first gens on the ground this year. Also hoping to finish my Chinco foundies and first gens, get the second gens on the ground this year. And of course, still working up those Holsties. Did complete a few lines, at least until I can find others that may be interested in combining lines. Have a second gen Ban'ei uni and fourth gen GSH to complete those lines for the time being. Very thankful to the breeders who helped contribute to them to bring them this far! 
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I have a foundation Misaki uni foal looking for a new home. Anyone interested?
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Brumby has gone to new home but still have Misaki.
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Just added to OG Arabians, under 10 yrs, with limited or no training so no incorrect training.
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Any idea how to find RG Foundies in sales? I'm trying to see what they are going for these days.
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Any idea how to find RG Foundies in sales? I'm trying to see what they are going for these days. Set the GP max to today's foundy GP, which you can find by going to a breed's directory page, and adding up the numbers in the genetics box. The sum of those numbers equals today's foundy GP. Also set to purebred. Many players tend to immediately sell whatever foundy they get from divines' events, etc., so you can also set skills to 0, and less than 1 month old
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After a *lot* of hard work, I am very proud to present:
My NIB GP Entry Horse's Name: Top Of The Class Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Lusitano (OG) Current GP: 1621.43 Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=81513584 (I swear, she *is* an OG horse  )
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Sorry, I posted after seeing some others advertising their horses, but then I read this isn't the right place for that. I'm not sure how to delete my message, if a mod could delete it for me please!
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Hi everybody, I wanted to pop in and post a reminder that horse ads are not allowed in the public forums. I see a line in the main post that may cause a bit of confusion on this, so I'll check with Admin about clarifying that.
If you're a frequent poster in here, and have NIB horses you wish to sell, I recommend making a post on your page stating so. That will help fellow NIBers find foundations you're willing to part with
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Is anyone looking for original foundation Shagya Arabian?
Drop me a pm and I'll help you.
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Is anyone looking for original foundation Shagya Arabian? I did have the name of someone who was taking them but I cannot remember who it was.
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Hi everybody, I wanted to pop in and post a reminder that horse ads are not allowed in the public forums. I see a line in the main post that may cause a bit of confusion on this, so I'll check with Admin about clarifying that. If you're a frequent poster in here, and have NIB horses you wish to sell, I recommend making a post on your page stating so. That will help fellow NIBers find foundations you're willing to part with What's the difference between advertising to sell and letting other NIBers know that they have what someone else is looking for? I always thought there was a difference between the two as for years, no one ever got in trouble for saying that they picked up a breed and it was available if anyone else was looking for it?
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Is anyone looking for original foundation Shagya Arabian? Drop me a pm and I'll help you. I still work my army of them 
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I love seeing progress in my NIB projects lately! I've been trying some different things just to change it up and it definitely helps change things up a bit. Seeing the most progress in my Misaki and Knabstrupper lines. They are both fun for me. And my Standardbred foundations are so close to being ready to breed, so exciting!
Hope everyone is having luck and progressing forward!
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I am currently trying to clear my foundation Arabs away so that I can work on these first gens. Quite excited to see what I get with them. I may have snuck a few into games already, but I have plenty of spares.
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I discovered I had a foundie bred Brumby, and she has one foaling left (she's old and I'm keeping her in my collections). But I can't find a foundation Brumby to breed her to! Any Brumby breeders here?
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