[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By bastille, 20th May 2022 19:13:24
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@ HYDEIST I've long given up hope that the game might become friendlier towards NIBers again... :/
Glad to hear that this item might occasionally be available though. I don't buy passes, but the daily objectives let me acumulate them over time, so depending on price it might be doable for me.
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By westernsky, 23rd May 2022 13:17:07
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Hey everyone, after a long long hiatus I decided to come back and pick up my rolling GP NIB Holsteiners again. I am happy to report that I just finished BLUPing my first first gen horse! By age 10, no less!

Here she is!
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By lbenedict15, 12th June 2022 17:03:13
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Threatened Mission
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Canadian
Current GP: 4019.57
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=73484215
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By Asfridur, 21st June 2022 16:04:40
No way a Canadian foundie uni default smiley (l)
Nice one lbenedict15
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By Retired breeder, 22nd June 2022 17:56:57
How much are foals with foundation parents going for? and what if you have a horse fully bluped with foundation parents?
By HYDEIST, 22nd June 2022 21:21:13
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Depends on the individual, honestly! Some of us like to own all the horses in a line, so wouldn't want to buy foundation offspring (stems from the curse of "Horse Disappeared" if a player deletes their game - horse then can't be verified as NIB and can destroy entire lines)..

But I'm sure there are NIBers who are happy to share lines, you'd just have to find them. Good luck!
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By Yankee Lady, 4th July 2022 18:56:51
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Sorry to have been incommunicable for so long, having wifi issues. I have been able to separate some foundation (both OG and RG) breeds into my Foundation breeding farm tab. There are another 2 pages of "Other" horses to confirm if foundation, and then separate into proper sub-category by breed and type of foundation under the Foundation Tab. All such horses listed have been confirmed as being foundation.

Since I am out of the NIB breeding, in fact will probably be deleting my account after many years of playing, I would like to get as many of the foundations to NIB breedsrs as possible. They are available for 500e, NIB breeder exclusive price, to anyone interested. If you feel adventurous and your breed is not listed under the Foundation tab, you can look thorough the "Other Horses" tab.

Please let me know if you are interested in any of the foundations, or any other breed that I might not have separated at this time. Thank you.
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By Asfridur, 14th July 2022 11:50:57
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@Yankee Lady - was so happy to see your name in the NIB section. Then got so very sad when I read your post.

It would be so great if you'd stay. Perhaps still play a little slowly working a rolling gain line of horses?

I'll take any potential homeless lovely it Being Shagya or Russian Don or other breeds. They deserve to have a home.

I still hope you can be persuaded to stick around in stead though default smiley (l)
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By WolfPawz, 21st July 2022 23:20:39
Hello, Hello.

I've had a few accounts before but due to various circumstances things didn't pan out. Figured I'd give it another roll and try for NIB greatness. I'll be breeding Shagya Arabs. Always looking for foundies so if you have any to sell I'd be interested.

I'd also be interested in just chatting and making friends.

Happy breeding y'all.
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By Asfridur, 29th July 2022 10:11:57
Welcome back WolfPawz - are you looking for rolling gain breeds?
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By Yankee Lady, 9th August 2022 22:30:54
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Okay, I have finally managed to get all the foundations separated into breed groups. I have already received a number of breed requests. The foundation breeds will be listed on my next post..

There are 1,849 OG foundations divided into 35 breeds, and 70 RG foundations divided into 14 breeds.

The "rules" for receiving any of them are as follows:

1 - only sold to NIB breeds

2 - all available at 500e, regardless of breed, coat, in foal or not. Mares in foal are listed as "NIB foal" or "foal not NIB". Wish I could just give them away free but impossible.

3 - taking orders by MAIL requests only (not here)

4 - choice of horses made by order of requests received, some breeds are already spoken for (will note on listing)

5 - where possible, 1st requestor chooses first (number determined by number in breed, but try for at least 4), then 2nd requestor and finally 3rd Only taking up to 3 requests per breeding group. EXCEPTION: when more than 20 horses available in breed, then will take up to 5 requests

6 - hopefully all will find new homes.

I trying to decide whether or not to keep either Purebred Spanish or Shagya Arabians to get back into a little NIB breeding again, if I should decide to keep my account. Finding it hard to say goodbye to 15 years.

Thank you all for your patience while I certified that all the horses are indeed foundations (found 20 that name said foundation but definitely were not) and divided them into their breed groups.
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By Yankee Lady, 9th August 2022 22:49:36
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OG Foundations. First number is number of horses, 2nd number is number of requests for that breed.

Must receive requests by this Saturday midnight (USA Mountain Time, 2 hours earlier than New York). Will be putting horses in reserved sales starting Sunday, those already spoken for may get earlier).

OG (RGs next posting)

Akhal - 1 horse - 0 requests
Appaloosa - 2 - 3 (no longer available, 1st 2 requestors will each get 1)
Arabian - 38 - 2
Australian Pony - 16 - 3
Barb - 2 - 1

Brumby - 2 horses - 0 requests
Canadian - 16 - 1
Connemara - 8 - 1
Curly - 10 - 1
Friesian - 15 - 1

Hacknay - 2 horses - 1 request
Haflinger - 29 - 0
Hanoverian - 2 - 0
Highland Pony - 16 - 0
Icelandic - 18 - 1

Irish Hunger - 24 horses - 0 requests
Knabstrapper - 6 - 2
KWPN - 1 - 0
Lippizan - 13 - 1
Mustang - 1 - 1 (no longer available)

Nokota - 11 horses - 2 requests
Paint - 11 - 1
Peruvian Paso - 1 - 1 (no longer available)
Purebred Spanish - 34 - 1
Quarter Horse - 17 - 2

Russian Don - 1 horse - 1 request (no longer available)
Selle Francois - 3 - 0
Shagya Arabian - 52 - 0
Shetland Pony - 5 - 1
Standardbred - 24 - 2

Tennessee Walker - 5 horses - 3 requests (no longer available)
Thoroughbred - 1 - 0
Trakehner - 9 - 0
Vanner - 4 - 1
Welsh Pony - 10 - 0

Please get your requests in to me as soon as possible. After this week will not be available for several weeks due to scheduled medical testing and family visit. Good luck, like to see all the foundations go to great homes.

RG next listing
Standardbred
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By Yankee Lady, 9th August 2022 22:54:25
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RG Foundations. First number is number of horses, 2nd number is number of requests for that breed.

Must receive requests by this Saturday midnight (USA Mountain Time, 2 hours earlier than New York). Will be putting horses in reserved sales starting Sunday, those already spoken for may get earlier).

RG (OGs previous posting)

Appaloosa - 13 horses - 1 request
Brumby - 1 - 0
Camargue - 10 - 0
Drum Horse - 2 - 0
Fjord - 3 - 0

Kerry Bog - 1 horse - 0 request
Marwari - 1 - 0
Newfoundland Pony - 2 - 1
Paint - 12 - 0
Percheron - 2 - 0

Purebred Spanish - 1 horse - 0 request
Quarter Horse - 10 - 0
Quarter Pony - 1 - 1 (no longer available)
Vanner - 2 - 0

Please get your requests to me as soon as possible. Will start placing horses Sunday morning if not earlier. Good luck.
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By Yankee Lady, 10th August 2022 00:41:24
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I just added the following OG Foundations

1 Arabian
5 Shagya Arabian
1 Thoroughbred


I also have 3 1st generation Purebred Spanish is anyone is interested.
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By Yankee Lady, 13th August 2022 23:39:20
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Request lines close in 6 1/2 hours.
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By Yankee Lady, 14th August 2022 15:28:19
Del,

Where did you find the symbols around your name? I have been unable to send you the foundations you required because I am not entering correctly. Have been trying { Del } but Howrse won't accept it. Thanks.
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By Storms Ransome, 14th August 2022 23:03:19


Try copying and pasting the name. I find that that helps when I can't get it to type in right.
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By Yankee Lady, 15th August 2022 17:43:41
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Guess have to get on computer. Tablet doesn't allow me on Howrse although can do in other apps.
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By Yankee Lady, 15th August 2022 17:47:17
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Foundations still available:

OG
KWPN -- 1

RG
Brumby -- 1
Fjord -- 3
Kerry BoG--1
Marwari -- 1
Purebred Spanish -- 1
Quarter Horse -- 10
Vanner -- 2

Please send me mail if interested in any of the above.
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By Yankee Lady, 17th August 2022 23:24:43
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I just reset all but my dressage competition (have to wait until it runs next) to minimum difficulty, low level. As they can run every 2 hours hopefully it might make it easier to get wins on OG horses. You can search for them at Letheringsete Manor.

Hope it helps.
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By Yankee Lady, 18th August 2022 16:04:00
Roo, please contact me about your requested foundations.
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By Twinjodi, 26th August 2022 17:03:34
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I am looking for people who have 5356 Foundation Trotter Unicorns. I am looking to purchase 4 first generations (foundation x foundation offspring) that don't share any of the same parents. Idk how I got so close to 6 gens but I did! � I will have an extra MALE if you happen to have a FEMALE that needs a cover! �
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By Yankee Lady, 27th August 2022 04:03:37
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Am finding it hard to turn my back on 15 years. Presently looking for OG PSHes, may try my hand at NIBing them again.
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By Retired breeder, 27th August 2022 12:14:45
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Hi! I am interested in NIB and I still have my founding horses (shetland breed), can someone help me get started? (tell me what to do/how to keep it going without inbreeding) If it seems to be too much trouble to me, I would be perfectly willing to sell my foundies to someone here who wants to do that! default smiley :)
By Twinjodi, 29th August 2022 02:26:36
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Hey Time4Fun, I went ahead and messaged you but welcome to the world of NIB!

YL, I'm sure I'm not alone in saying glad to see you're sticking around! default smiley :d
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