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By Retired breeder, 21st November 2014 12:27:28
Read the above posts you will see.
By Retired breeder, 21st November 2014 12:28:15
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wildfire7979 wrote:

I want to know whwere you found that information.. because as of last night it was still coming out. default smiley (o)


Apparently Ow said this on the test server

Hello Everyone,
My reply took a bit of time coming simply because we had things to clarify and decide before I could give you any form of information.
Talking to you without any form of concrete information to provide would have simply been detrimental.

We don't want Christmas to be a period where there are any unnecessary tensions.

We've heard what you had to say concerning the Retired Golden Apple item from the Vintage pack and therefore have decided that we wouldn't introduce it.

However this doesn't mean that we will never do something similar in the future.
We feel that the concept of offering a way for players to obtain rare items is something that is positive for the community but we have also understood that the format we had chosen wasn't one that would fit with your expectations.

This means we are reworking the Christmas offers to offer something a bit more adapted.

Our wish is to have a nice end of year celebration with our players and have a good time.
I hope this assuages your concerns a little.
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Ow
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they will have to come up with new objectives after a lot of the changes. No box, no meadow etc.... would be nice if it just went away, and never come back.default smiley :)
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To add to post Chelsea fc provided - these are Ow's replies to other questions that were asked after she posted the initial message:

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Player: i'm still very concerned as clearly you WILL be introducing it at some point and i cannot see how any form of this item on the game Would not be damaging to collectors.

Ow's reply:

Player, as i have said it is the concept of giving the possibility to player to obtain rare items that we find interesting.
Not specifically the Golden Apple and not in the next six months but what i wanted to convey is that the concept can probably be thought about and something of a compromise can be found that can be sufficiently satisfactory for you to not find it totally damaging.

I don't know how and when and i'm even open to ideas but i'd rather be flatly honest and not have anyone triple upset in a year or two if something similar in concept comes along you see.

The "new item" won't exist in that form and way of working that's sure. The concept however could with a lot of limitations and a lot of consideration be something else.

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Player: Is there any chance you will create a future survey about how we would like such an item to be introduced?

Ow's Reply:

i can't make promises because i'm just a part of the equation. But i think we've got your message across quite clearly and will be taking triple care if we ever want to touch Golden Apples and more so retired ones in the future. For the survey bit i can't say.

I'd like to really make what i mean by concept clear and i'm not sure i'm doing a great job at it.
For instance instead of inserting retired golden apples, we could decide to select creations and offer them in very limited numbers on special occasions. A bit like the bird contest where player had the kindness of drawing the coats. When i say "concept" it's really the idea of a rare design and a limited opportunity offered to players. I really want to stress that I'm not talking of the item as it was planned in the vintage pack.

*for those of you who don't know; the Bird Contest in question was for the Bird Wandering Horses (they were all player designed)

Second half of Ow's reply in regards to the Surveys

we do surveys now and again but they have a few disadvantages from our vantage.
- They need to be done at the conception phase (which is roughly 6 months or more before the feature is coded so we don't have any surprise factor)
- They require manpower to conceive
- They require manpower to analyse
But yes they are excellent tools to get an idea of what the community is thinking. The results are sometimes surprising too

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Player; Will you be replacing this item that has been removed to maintain the value level of the Vintage pack or are you just removing it and leaving this pack with a bit lesser value ?

Ow's Reply;

We are removing the packs and working on something sightly different thou shall see soon and i think you' ll also approve of it
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three months of free tears, perhaps default smiley (y)
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now that that is cleared, can we all enthuse about the beach rides? default smiley <:o)
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By Retired breeder, 21st November 2014 17:02:12
What about the beach rides? Are they being changed? o.o
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now that that is cleared, can we all enthuse about the beach rides? default smiley <:o)


If you like beach Rides you can be - I just want to figure out where I am going to put my center default smiley :(

Maybe I'll put out a poll to my boarders about it...let them decide as if memory serves:

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Rides that match where the Center is located will be completed twice as fast (so a center in the Mountains will have its horses complete Mountain rides faster than Forest or Beach)


But that's not my major concern - mine comes from the Resources that each location will offer;

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Forest gives Wood - Mountains give Iron. Now according to the Time Line on Preprod for the next set of EC changes, we'll be able to start producing our own supplies via Workshops. One of the new things listed for boxes and meadows is Water Troughs. But I don't know if these will be made of Wood or Iron...I wish I knew so that I would be able to quickly produce this perk for my boarders by harvesting the needed resource
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For those of you wondering about upcoming EC changes I mentioned in my above post - this post contains the Time Line from Preprod;

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The next phase

The next step will be implemented at the beginning of February.
Production Cycle

Thanks to the location of your Equestrian Center and your boarders, you can collect a brand new type of resource: wood for the forest, iron for the mountains, sand for the beach.
There are two types of resources:
Resources associated with the location of your Equestrian Center: acquired via missions done by your boarders or purchased from the store.
Resources available for all Equestrian Centers: agricultural products (fodder, straw, flax, etc.) and livestock products (leather).
By combining different resources, you can make most of the products and facilities in your Equestrian Center
At the store, the price of products that you make depends on supply and demand.
You can change the location of your equestrian center for 30 days after the next update, to test the various possibilities.

Workshops

Workshops allow you to make:
Buildings: boxes, greenhouses, new workshops
Box (shower, trough) and meadow (trough, tractor) improvements
Products (equipment, mash, fertilizer)
Depending on their size, they allow you to make more or less of your chosen product.
The number of workshops that you can simultaneously have producing goods depends on the prestige of your Equestrian Center.
Production time depends on the product that you are making.

Raising Cows

You can dedicate the use of some of your fields to raise cattle
Cows allows you to get leather
You can have 6 fields simultaneously growing crops and/or containing cows.

Buildings in your Equestrian Center

A new improvement is available for boxes: the drinking trough. It allows your boarders to obtain 4 times more energy and morale via the “drinking” action. This improvement does not count toward prestige.
The tractor replaces the scarecrow.
The trough is an improvement for fields with cattle: it allows you to obtain 30% more leather.
When a building is used too much, it is disabled until it is repaired with resources.
You can have several greenhouses. They are available in three different sizes and wear out as they are used.

Horse's Page

Lessons carried out by horses have been renamed Missions.
There are two types of missions:
Lessons, which bring in money to the Equestrian Center manager
Gathering missions, which bring in resources to the Equestrian Center
This action always brings in money for the horse owner and skills for the horse.
The “Put in the meadow” and “Put in the box” actions have been deleted. Adjustments have been made to counteract the loss of energy/morale.

What's next...

The following is a general overview of what has been planned for the future. We will provide more details of each feature closer to their release date.

A tutorial is offered when creating an Equestrian Center
Draft horses are coming to the game
Complete overhaul of the Secret Market
Trophies for Equestrian Centers
VIP advantages specific to Equestrian Centers
And perhaps other features that will be produced along the way
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Thank-you Ow and Howrse for listening to our concerns and coming up with a compromise that has everyones best interests at heart.
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beach
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for the December change: "Beach Rides still allow you to transfer points from one skill to another. From now on, you can choose the skill that will gain points and the skill that will lose points. If a choice is not made, the skill that will gain points will be the highest, and the skill that will lose points will be the lowest.

Points exchanged by these rides were previously fixed, so it took more and more time with the increase in horse genetic potential. Now, beach rides require the same amount of time no matter the genetic potential of the horse."

So, the (with high gp horses) formerly sooo frustratingly long and boring beach rides can be done much faster and if you messed up with keeping the skill lowest that you want to have reduced (or the skill highest that you want to add to) you now/then can manually choose to have the transfer go in the way you want it to.


Weee. default smiley <:o)

I am wondering how useful sand will be ... default smiley 8-)
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Starkitty wrote:

am wondering how useful sand will be ... default smiley 8-)


See? That's my problem when it comes to choosing a location for my center - the Resources...

It's easy enough to figure out what one can use Wood [building boxes] and Iron for [Bits and stirrups on saddles, shower nozzles] but not Sand.

The only things that make sense for Sand is;

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Lining the Lesson Ring (perhaps as a way to decrease energy use)
Making concrete to make floors for your boxes and workshops
Making Glass to be able to build a Green House *this seems the most logical now that I think about it*
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By Retired breeder, 21st November 2014 17:47:11
I cannot wait for these EC changes. As a Gypsy Vanner breeder these are pretty golden changes ^-^;
By Retired breeder, 21st November 2014 17:50:03
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I'm so excited to see that Howrse listened to the players that I'm done stressing over locations and materials. I'm not entirely sure which I'm going to choose yet, but Howrse *listened* to its players. I think I might need to buy some passes as thanks... default smiley <:o)
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why would you consider it golden as a vanner breeder? lol just curious
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Retired breeder wrote:

How much time, money both real and virtual did you spend on your retired coat collection?

That is of no concern to you.
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Starkitty wrote:

I am wondering how useful sand will be ... default smiley 8-)


Maybe the Water Troughs will be cement. default smiley (b)
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will the fountain from the prix be placed?
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Thanks for listening to our opinion Howrse! default smiley :p
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will

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sowilPack with the retired be bought to the game soon? I hope so
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99% of us hope NOT
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By Retired breeder, 21st November 2014 22:58:29
Is there any rumors of
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Wandering horses???
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99% of us hope NOT



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I am sure a lot of other players besides my self would of like the silver apples and really hope howrse will have them for sale soondefault smiley (7)
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has it been confermed when the next changes will come?
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A thousand times, thank you for listening to us Owlientdefault smiley (y)
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