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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 08:52:36
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Buy at least 1 horse, sell at least one horse, train, feed groom (basically take care of) at least one horse, register a horse in an EC change the meadows in my EC, congratulate at least one person, and post a message in the forums.


All I have to do is take care of my horses
I just wish I had time to deal with 10 pass horses a month let alone enough to get 30 default smiley :) How on earth do you do it all? I know I'm not the fastest with a mouse or keyboard (or anything else) but it would be lovely to get a few more than the 3-4 I usually achieve default smiley (lol)
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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 09:54:07
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post a message in the forums.

I'm banned from my home account forums so that's not gonna work
nellie130
Also going along with the posts above as to why players no longer trust Howrse, my biggest reason is the fact that they did actually break a promise that they made us players a few years ago.
It is when they implemented the rolling GP gain to Foundations on the other servers and then tried to implement it here, we as players got together and told Howrse that it was not wanted and would ruin many players games. Howrse actually listened to us and told us that they would not add the rolling GP gain to Foundations on the international server.
Last Fall they went ahead and implemented that change to foundations, despite their promise to us, so yes I have no reason to trust Howrse as they do break their promises to us.
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I think the pass change will be good, a free pass every few days, just for just playing as normal? That's more than I make off pass horses now (I can never be bothered to age them to 30, and would go broke buying them all the time) default smiley (lol)
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It takes less than a minute to care for 10 pass horses for those complainers of its to hard. Plus you get aps also.

That is way easier than the stupid minni games. Of which do not work on many devices and takes a lot of time away from the game. And you will never save your passes because when you go to use item from inventory the dumb default steals your pass.

The way to stop this is by not buying passes with real money period.
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@katiedingo
When you use a Black Matket Item from your inventory, you just have to make sure to tap the bible that says use from my inventory, or something along those lines. The default bubble is always with a pass, so you just have to be watchful.
If people do not buy passes with real money, howrse will be non-existent. The moderators and administrators use the money to keep the game running. I myself do not buy passes (Saving up for college in less that four years), but I fully support those who do.
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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 12:37:53
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Hugo James Morgan wrote:

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When you use a Black Matket Item from your inventory, you just have to make sure to tap the bible that says use from my inventory, or something along those lines. The default bubble is always with a pass, so you just have to be watchful.


Easier said than done. There have been times where I selected inventory but it lagged and I almost used a pass. Item should be default, not pass, and nothing will change my mind.
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And you will never save your passes because when you go to use item from inventory the dumb default steals your pass.


Isn't that why you check, double check, and check once more before you finalize your purchase?

I have never had my pass stolen from me in all the years I have played. I made sure the purchase was where I wanted it to be before I finalized it. Sometimes players make user errors. You can't exactly blame horse when 99% of the time passes are "stolen" is players not paying attention to what they're doing.
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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 13:52:29
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Okay so the whole pass thing, isn't it a good thing ? 1 pass every 3 days just for playing. That will give some of the people who don't have the time to deal with pass horses or the ageing points, the chance to get passes , and for those people maybe they can get divines and do good at promos that you have to have passes to get anything good. Maybe i missed some of the info somewhere but i see this as a good thing.
Retired breeder wrote:

Okay so the whole pass thing, isn't it a good thing ? 1 pass every 3 days just for playing. That will give some of the people who don't have the time to deal with pass horses or the ageing points, the chance to get passes , and for those people maybe they can get divines and do good at promos that you have to have passes to get anything good. Maybe i missed some of the info somewhere but i see this as a good thing.
The burr in a lot of player's blankets, or maybe just my own, is
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it is a fixed schedule on when you get the passes, and it's easy for even an active player to miss just a few points and ruin the "10 a month deal." Perhaps if VIP didn't cost 10 passes I wouldn't mind missing just 1 pass or 2 a month (that's a big "if"). Right now you can send the pass horses to heaven whenever you want. If you need your 10 passes at the start of the month for a promo deal, then you can get them right then. With the proposed system you only get them every 3 days. And this new system does away with pass horses entirely. They aren't adding the pass every 3 days to the 10 passes from horses we currently have.
I've never had a problem getting the 10 loyal player pass points on this account, but I do have an issue on my U.S and U.K accounts. I kept detailed track of the actions I did and the points I received for about a week and there was no consistency with the points I received, even on days when I did the exact same actions.
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Retired breeder wrote:

Easier said than done. There have been times where I selected inventory but it lagged and I almost used a pass. Item should be default, not pass, and nothing will change my mind.


I agree 1000%
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Legacy Ann wrote:

I received for about a week and there was no consistency with the points I received, even on days when I did the exact same actions.


I believe there is no consistency because they have a revolving system.

I do the exact same thing in the exact same order and will still lose a point here and there randomly. That should not happen on a fixed calculation system but will occurred on a random one.

My belief is they have a "core" list of things you must do ( logon, water, groom etc). which will give you a set number of points ( say 6 points). Then they have other things ( post a message, go to sales page etc) that change from day to day. So one day you will do all that is required for the additional 4 points one day and maybe not the next.default smiley (m)
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Spyder wrote:

My belief is they have a "core" list of things you must do ( logon, water, groom etc). which will give you a set number of points ( say 6 points). Then they have other things ( post a message, go to sales page etc) that change from day to day. So one day you will do all that is required for the additional 4 points one day and maybe not the next.default smiley (m)

Oooh, that's a good point I never thought of! Which makes sense if you don't want your player's to try keeping track of what earns points *ahem*
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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 14:55:46
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I'm a bit confused about this whole pass change! If I understand correctly...

- You have to send 10 25yr+ horses to Heaven to get the new divine
- You then have to continue killing horses every month to keep it
- You no longer get a pass from a horse which dies over the age of 30
- You can now get a pass every 3 days from the loyal player thing

Is that correct? I have to admit I'm crossing my fingers it isn't! Only ten passes a month...? Argh.
By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 14:58:47
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My belief is they have a "core" list of things you must do ( logon, water, groom etc). which will give you a set number of points ( say 6 points). Then they have other things ( post a message, go to sales page etc) that change from day to day. So one day you will do all that is required for the additional 4 points one day and maybe not the next.default smiley (m)


That sounds very probable! But, just in case it helps, I don't think posting in forums or sending messages gains you any extra points (ever). I don't post in forums nor send any messages on my Caballow account, but I still get 10 points every day.
By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 15:21:39
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Its that they think we are a bunch of gullible players who dont keep track of their gaming activities daily. They know if we have a curtain set of activities we will do them and thats it log off and go on with our day, like promos. I am betting 75% of players are working and or go to school full time with some doing both.

If we keep at them like we do they are starting to listen to us. If people are smart and I know they are you still can sell timed and nonsaleable BMI's. I know because I sold 2 hestia gifts during the butterfly promo so it can be done. But you gotta put them on good horses not some crazy low GP ones unless they are an original.
By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 15:24:47
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I don't think we should be hating on the divine I mean it could be that it gives a pass for every horse sent to heaven we just don't know so we should not be quick to rush to judgment until we have seen what the perk is. it could be lame but give it a chance to at least find out what it is default smiley (y)
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I don't think posting in forums or sending messages gains you any extra points (ever).


I just used that as an example. Random acts can be anything but having a two tier system of fixed and random is the only way you could get 10 points one day and 8 points the next with you doing the same thing from day to day.

Even though we do the exact same thing every day we really know that there are other little things we do that will change from one day to the next (like buy a horse, enter the GP, post in a forum etc). I believe this is the only system that fits with the results I have been getting.

Since it started there has always been one or two days I did not make the full 10 points so in the end it was more like 1 pass every 31 days.
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Kutlo
If you read what is happening, you will know that the divine is not what will be giving you the pass every 3 days. It states "1) You can earn one pass per 3 days, through loyalty pass player.
How? The daily limit for points achieved (10) will be replaced with maximum of 30. So it will be exactly like the system they implemented for the free pass you get every month. Also players are upset because they were able to get up 31 free passes a month. According to the new system it sounds like the most passes a player will get now is only 10 per month.
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Spyder wrote:

My belief is they have a "core" list of things you must do ( logon, water, groom etc). which will give you a set number of points ( say 6 points). Then they have other things ( post a message, go to sales page etc) that change from day to day. So one day you will do all that is required for the additional 4 points one day and maybe not the next.default smiley (m)


That would explain a few things. And it would definitely make sense if they don't want anyone to find out and spread word of the way to get 10 points a day every day.
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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 16:09:24
I think they should keep pass horses but make it possible to earn a pass every 10 days. You can send 10 horses to heaven and get a pass for your VIP and with the loyal players pass, you can get extra passes for BMI/horses
By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 16:10:20
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deimos wrote:

I just wish I had time to deal with 10 pass horses a month let alone enough to get 30 default smiley :) How on earth do you do it all? I know I'm not the fastest with a mouse or keyboard (or anything else) but it would be lovely to get a few more than the 3-4 I usually achieve default smiley (lol)


It really just takes spending a bit of money to have a "farm" going. Then you work the horses every day. Getting the 10/month requires a minimum of 70 horses for me. When I wanted the 30 per month I worked between 500-900 (and this was years ago, when I played much more seriously).

You work mortal horses of various ages every day. 70 horses takes less than 15 minutes a day, phone or laptop.

With that, I can have ten horses aged 1-5, ten horses aged 5-10, ten horses aged 10-15, ten horses aged 15-20, ten horses aged 20-25, ten horses aged 25-30, and ten horses aged 30+.

Every time the ten 30+ year olds are sent to heaven, I add ten 1-5 year olds. They are cheap to breed or buy, so no big deal. Doing this every day for just 15 minutes gives me ten passes.

It takes a little under 2 hours for me to work more than 500 horses, but when I play any video game "excessively" 2 hours is not crazy. I mix it up in between my daily chores, such as work breaks, after cleaning, during lunch, or before bed, and it really doesn't make a dent in my productivity. With that, it was very easy to get 20+ passes a month, and often the full 30. Plus, lots of tears, WoYs, etc. which was a nice little bonus default smiley :) not to mention you roll in AP's!

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I have to say not having these kind of "daily chores" will really ruin the appeal of the game for me. The more I think on this I realize that I won't want to play Howrse with these changes. It isn't even about feeling "cheated" as much as I can't enjoy a game that doesn't reward, at all, what I enjoy about it. If I have to do random tedious tasks every day to hope for a reward, it isn't fun. Not to mention I can't afford an online game that's $15/month. $10/month for other games was steep for me! I'm just a college student hah. How sad. I hope this idea is revoked... I love this game so much as it is and I just realized how much this will impact it for me
Most of us go for the standard 10 passes per month by sending 10 pass horses to heaven.

If we took the time to calculate this out doing 1 pass for every 3 days actually gets you 1 more pass per year.

12 months (10 x 12) ==120 passes in total
1 every 3 days is (365 divided by 3) ==121 ( with a couple days in hand).

I never do the 30 horses per month as it is in the end too expensive for me so a 1 every 3 days actually gets you more in the long run.default smiley :)
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What will be the next event, after The Great Challenge?default smiley :)
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