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The current Gypsy Vanner coat is perfect, long mane, tail and feathers, I know because I own and show one. The breed description insists on ' long thick feathers which start from the back of the knee down and cover the hooves'. The amount of feather in the new coats and the mane and tail length would result in your horse being marked down,
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By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 02:56:10
I love all the new coats especially the Kwpn coat I would breed kwpns but their coats always put me off, they looked so shiny and furless default smiley (y)
By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 02:56:13
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I'm a little disappointed with the gypsy coat. I've seen Gypsy Vanners and they look way more majestic than that coat gives them credit for... Anyone know what the chincoteague coat looks like? (sorry if it is posted a few pages back, I must have missed it)
By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 03:52:55
I personally think that the Gypsy Vanner ones are the absolute worst, I love the current line-art and I hate the new one. Besides that though, I don't think very many others are that bad, I think my main problem with most of them is the manes, like if you fix those, then I think I would be pretty alright
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By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 04:28:25
Any news about the Treasure chests or if foals are getting updated coats?
Neferka wrote:

Why not?


To which I quote myself from the same post:

"Even players that invest a lot of time and effort into the game don't necessarily have an equal opportunity. The only players that have an equal opportunity are the players who've monopolized the GP race while everyone else just falls further and further behind daily. A lot of players simply have no incentive to invest monetarily into the game either at all or anymore because of the way the GP race has been monopolized so extensively. Anytime a new breed is released a breeding group pops up and monopolizes it keeping everyone else at a nice 200 point or wider GP buffer."

I thought I explained it pretty well the first time.

Neferka wrote:

Your simple math failed to take into consideration the excess items you produce which you can then sell to other players for profit - extra equus you didn't have before that you can use to buy any missing crafting items you need.


You put the cart before the horse. You cannot sell excess items you produce until you have all the materials needed to make them. First you buy the materials you don't have, then you craft the items you need. When you've finished crafting the items you want for youself, and decide to start selling the crafted items left over/are still making you still aren't making a profit as you have to first make back what you spent crafting what you needed to begin with. Most of the time you will end up with a net loss playing the crafting game if you use most of what you craft and sell the rest as the crafted items tend to sell for less than the raw materials needed to make them. There are exceptions, but I doubt this game will have them.

It might look like you're making a profit, but you really aren't. The players that are, however, are the ones selling you the raw materials you need.
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Currently there are 9 different saddles, 8 bridles, 4 types of horseshoes, Golden Apples, Helios Rays, Bell boots, Whips, Spures, Lunges, hoof picks, tubs of grease, horseshoe studs and probably a bunch of other things I have forgotten that we can give to our horses. This is already a dress up game, we just don't see some of the items placed on the horses yet... What difference will that and a few extra items make?


What makes it a dress up game is having to mix and match them for looks to get the extra bonuses you need to be competitive. Right now there are no "set bonus" based on how they look together, each item gives bonuses for certain skills and that's all.

Right now, each horse, as far as tack is concerned, needs Horseshoes, a saddle and a bridle. Most of the time the ones used are the M2M/High-end saddle/bridle and FK or MK horseshoes. After the change there will also be the bonnet and legwraps/warmers/w.e as well. Not only that but to get the full bonus you need to have those items and of a specific color to get the full set bonus. I don't have to do that right now so the game isn't acting like a dress-up the howrse game. As soon as I have to start even considering doing that it becomes a dress-up the howrse game.
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Hmmm...I was playing around with Greasemonkey swapping the image for the current and potential coat for the Friesian that's on the test server, and, to me, the current one is just better. Something about the one from the test server just seems off somehow.
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I really hope they change the background of the DA coats, the box is just so repulsive. And the fact that I can't even use a Harmony Pack or Helios Ray to change the background really disappoints medefault smiley :@ As far as the Friesian coats I don't really see much difference, same stance. I just think they could have made the Friesians a little bit more elegant looking, as if you have ever seen a real picture of a Friesian they look quite elegant, especially when they move. Also saw a pic of a chestnut Friesian on the internet and they are gorgeous. default smiley (l)
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By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 06:49:43
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lisa7308 wrote:

I really hope they change the background of the DA coats, the box is just so repulsive. And the fact that I can't even use a Harmony Pack or Helios Ray to change the background really disappoints medefault smiley :@ As far as the Friesian coats I don't really see much difference, same stance. I just think they could have made the Friesians a little bit more elegant looking, as if you have ever seen a real picture of a Friesian they look quite elegant, especially when they move. Also saw a pic of a chestnut Friesian on the internet and they are gorgeous. default smiley (l)


There are no such things as a purebred chestnut Friesian
lisa7308 wrote:

I really hope they change the background of the DA coats, the box is just so repulsive. And the fact that I can't even use a Harmony Pack or Helios Ray to change the background really disappoints medefault smiley :@ As far as the Friesian coats I don't really see much difference, same stance. I just think they could have made the Friesians a little bit more elegant looking, as if you have ever seen a real picture of a Friesian they look quite elegant, especially when they move. Also saw a pic of a chestnut Friesian on the internet and they are gorgeous. default smiley (l)


In case you haven't noticed, they've given a huge bulp to its neck, which makes it look ugly and unrealistic.
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It was ment to say bump, not bulp.
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By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 07:42:45
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The Friesian coat on the test server is hideous.. And I know what is on the test server might not be the final anything and i reaaaly really hope it isn't I've posted some image comparisons in the spoiler box below

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The crest or top of the neck is to round to something i don't really know all the terminology but the Current one IS better so I really hope this is not used.
Found this on the Australia and New Zealand Friesian Horse Society:
"They are now, but up to a 100 hundred years ago, there were white, roan and chestnut Friesians horses. White is now not acceptable except for a small star on the forehead. The ideal horse is jet black, but very dark black and rusty black is acceptable. A Friesian can become brown if they are sun or sweat bleached. On very rare occasions, a chestnut foal is born."

I did not know that 0_0 So awesome! Thanks lisa7308 default smiley (y)

waterangel wrote:

In case you haven't noticed, they've given a huge bulp to its neck, which makes it look ugly and unrealistic.

Yeah that bump is a bit of an odd feature.
I find the coat colour a bit odd too. I think it's grey because it's supposed to be really glossy, but they didn't make the mane super shiny to match which makes the two contrast in a really unrealistic way.

Chaise wrote:

I thought I explained it pretty well the first time.


You mention two groups of people - one set that puts a lot of time and effort into their game yet cannot, for some reason, lead the GP race; and a second mysterious set that can apparently monopolize the GP race. My question was by which mechanism the second group are able to maintain an alleged 200 GP lead over everyone else? I don't see an explanation anywhere in that quote, just a statement. I'm not even disputing the statement necessarily I just want clarification.

Chaise wrote:

It might look like you're making a profit, but you really aren't. The players that are, however, are the ones selling you the raw materials you need.


Wow lucky players... So I assume these blessed people have been granted special favours by the Howrse gods to sell raw materials - something everyone else is exempt from. I see your point now. When I wrote 'excess items you produce' I was naturally talking about crafted items, not raw materials... Because if I was talking about raw materials you would have proved my point about the the extra items howrse is introducing having a net cost of 0 equus and that is just not possible - kinda like dividing by 0 default smiley *-) the whole world would start to fold in on itself.
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Chaise wrote:

Anytime a new breed is released a breeding group pops up and monopolizes it keeping everyone else at a nice 200 point or wider GP buffer.


And of course, when a new breed is introduced, Howrse picks a breeding group and gives them foundie horses with 550 gp instead of the 350 gp foundies that everyone else gets, to make sure that nobody else can go and breed high-gp horses of that breed ...
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By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 09:34:18
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The new friesian looks like something from v1/2. Honestly, it's not even black!
By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 10:54:55
if we have to have more tack what about the tack packs? and the people who already have the packs? do they have to add non-bmi tack to the horses or do they get the stuff free?
By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 12:46:25
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Starkitty - Does that really happen?default smiley :o (*Clears throat and gives Howrse a stern look.* default smiley (o))
By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 12:57:29
By The Ace of Fools, 20th March 2014 03:42:45 1
The Friesian coat on the test server is hideous.. And I know what is on the test server might not be the final anything and i reaaaly really hope it isn't I've posted some image comparisons in the spoiler box below

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I love the idea of seeing tack on the horse. But I wholly agree with ace of the fools.
By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 13:00:53
What happens to the fluffy feet?default smiley (o)
Retired breeder wrote:

The Friesian coat on the test server is hideous.. And I know what is on the test server might not be the final anything and i reaaaly really hope it isn't I've posted some image comparisons in the spoiler box below

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Old Coat


Actual Friesians




Test Server

The crest or top of the neck is to round to something i don't really know all the terminology but the Current one IS better so I really hope this is not used.


I definitely agree, that neck looks pitiful.
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Is this kind of like a new ideas forum? Lol I mconfused.
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By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 13:20:52
Leland, this is where people share new things howrse is doing ex. New coats
By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 13:52:42
I think I like the shape of the old Friesian but the colors of the new one. So maybe combining would be nice...?
By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 14:10:38
Aquac123: Thanks!! default smiley :-))
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