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By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 20:41:31
Where can you see all new horses?? default smiley :-))
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 20:57:32
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[quote=1402047223]Where can you see all new horses?? default smiley :-))[/quote

The new versions?

In the previous pages
Neferka,

When exactly has Howrse introduced something new that did not cost it's players passes/equus/diamonds? This is a business.

As for the new economic system, it may provide us with raw matierals but only for the mode we choose...what about the other modes?? cha-ching

I also believe the really successful players that do put money into this game also put a heck of a lot of time into too.
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By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 20:57:59
Retired breeder wrote:

Where can you see all new horses?? default smiley :-))


I mean
In the previous pages
GH39 wrote:

I remember when the current coats replaced the V.2s everyone seemed to hate the new ones and now all of the sudden they're perfectdefault smiley :p

I know right? Never mind that they contain more anatomical flaws than the new ones!
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It just occurred to me...that I dislike the way the TB's look. After 620+ day on howrse.com international server, I just realized that.
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By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 21:46:05
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λzeroth wrote:

It just occurred to me...that I dislike the way the TB's look. After 620+ day on howrse.com international server, I just realized that.


I agree that the current TBs aren't great (they look so horribly underfed) D: , but the alternate line art is pretty pathetic, too. They look like warmbloods! default smiley xd
By Retired breeder, 19th March 2014 21:54:44
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This is terrible, I mainly breed Paints and I *hate* their new coats >.> Man, I'm going to have to switch to another breed just to avoid looking at them at this rate :/
the new wilds, anyone know how we are getting them other then the lotto?
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Arabians are best wrote:

Neferka,

When exactly has Howrse introduced something new that did not cost it's players passes/equus/diamonds? This is a business.

As for the new economic system, it may provide us with raw matierals but only for the mode we choose...what about the other modes?? cha-ching

I also believe the really successful players that do put money into this game also put a heck of a lot of time into too.


What does this have to do with the new wearable tack being a bad thing? The tack potentially costing money is not an argument against it in my opinion. I mentioned the information in the blog only to point out there is evidence we may not even have to spend anything to obtain some of the items anyway so people should maybe stop jumping to conclusions.

"cha-ching" who? Howrse? Did it occur to you that since you have a 'mode' that not everyone else has you have now been given a way to raise the funds to purchase the items you can't manufacture yourself? You may not end up seeing a loss in equus overall from the new items depending on how you play the game.
Here's another quote from the blogs:
"Indeed, all the items that are available at the stores will be only created by players. And the price of these items will depend on the quantities you will sell and buy. So this economic system will be totally independent from us. There will be more interactions between you, players. This should make the game more strategic."
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Neferka wrote:

You don't know that for sure yet, none of us do, and from what Howrse has mentioned recently it's starting to sound like we might not have to 'buy' some things to begin with. For instance, the inside Howrse blog post about the EC changes mentions this:"A new economic systemForests and mountains will also offer another benefit; they will provide you with raw materials, in order to craft items or produce by yourself, instead of having to buy them."And Ow posted this in the EC production cycle suggestions thread:"For instance an equestrian centre in the Mongolian steppe where you raise sheep for wool to weave saddle blankets for horses…"


That doesn't mean we won't have to buy them, it means there is a chance you won't have to buy some or all of them. With the way crafting systems generally work, any raw materials you cannot get yourself you have to buy from someone else meaning you are paying for the items even if not directly.

Neferka wrote:

Using copyrighted images without permission, even if it's just as a reference, is called plagiarism.


Not all images in the internet are copyrighted and it is possible to use images as a reference without plagiarizing the image.

Neferka wrote:

Is that a reasonable expectation to begin with? You're essentially saying that people who can't or won't invest the time, money or effort into competing in one of the more intense aspects of the game should have an equal opportunity to do so... What would be the incentive for people who invest a lot into their games and where is the challenge in that?


Even players that invest a lot of time and effort into the game don't necessarily have an equal opportunity. The only players that have an equal opportunity are the players who've monopolized the GP race while everyone else just falls further and further behind daily. A lot of players simply have no incentive to invest monetarily into the game either at all or anymore because of the way the GP race has been monopolized so extensively. Anytime a new breed is released a breeding group pops up and monopolizes it keeping everyone else at a nice 200 point or wider GP buffer.
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Neferka wrote:

What does this have to do with the new wearable tack being a bad thing? The tack potentially costing money is not an argument against it in my opinion. I mentioned the information in the blog only to point out there is evidence we may not even have to spend anything to obtain some of the items anyway so people should maybe stop jumping to conclusions."cha-ching" who? Howrse? Did it occur to you that since you have a 'mode' that not everyone else has you have now been given a way to raise the funds to purchase the items you can't manufacture yourself? You may not end up seeing a loss in equus overall from the new items depending on how you play the game. Here's another quote from the blogs:"Indeed, all the items that are available at the stores will be only created by players. And the price of these items will depend on the quantities you will sell and buy. So this economic system will be totally independent from us. There will be more interactions between you, players. This should make the game more strategic."


If you only need a few, it's possible, however unlikely, that you won't have to buy that which you can make, but crafting systems usually require more resources than a single player can acquire. This means it will require out of pocket expenses for players who need more than the ones they can make. Consider the change to tack in the ECs, for example.

Your second quote from the blogs only supports that players are likely to see a loss of equus due to the new items that will, ultimately, be required to be competitive. I have a 120 box EC that won't have any tack after they remove jobs. Tack won't appear out of thin air, it has to come from somewhere and crafting systems usually require more resource types than a single player can get by themselves. It's simple math.
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Chaise,

I agree.

Many of us will weather the new changes and maybe some of the changes will make the game interesting. For us long-time players....well, we know it will come with a price. Looking through rose-colored glasses doesn't change that fact.


Neferka,

As for the wearable tack, I'm just not interested in howrsey dress-up or the expense it's going to incur...plain and simple.
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livi wrote:

Our beautiful Gypsy Vanners are going to have half their mane cut off. Now they aren't special any more.

And they loose their feathers. default smiley :'( What are we gonna do with noe fluffy feet? D:
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Not sure if this has been posted, I had a look back a few pages and couldn't find it.
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Highland Pony
Species: Pony
Size: from 13.0 hands to 14.2 hands
The allowed coats
Bay 7%
Flaxen Liver chestnut 3%
Black 12%
Light Gray 10%
Chestnut 1%
Liver chestnut 4%
Dapple Gray 9%
Mouse Gray 25%
Dun 22%
Roan 7%
The Skills
Stamina-84%
Speed-60%
Dressage-55%
Gallop-43%
Trot -50%
Jumping -58%
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Neferka wrote:

Here are the Gypsy Vanner colours... Hmm I think the Tobiano's look like they're wearing leggings.

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Goof, Of course they're wearing leggings. Their feet are cold, can't you see Howrse took away all their warm, fuzzy feathers?
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By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 00:15:15
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I wished they'd asked us what we thought of the other breeds' coats. Howrse only showed us some of them
I will give the coats this much credit: over all the changes, the designers have at least gotten them looking a bit more realistic. I don't mean the proportions, I mean that there is actually some attempt at real shading, etc. I looked up the v1 graphics because I forgot what they looked like, and yeesh… adorable, but too bubbly and no thought went into shading.

I also like that the new TBs won't look anorexic.

other than that, idk… the proportions are going to take some getting used to on some of these, and I am putting GAs on all my vanner and friesian unicorns so I don't have to look at them and cry over the loss of feathers ><
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By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 00:38:46
this isn't a real spoiler. It was uploaded on photobucket default smiley (o)
Chaise wrote:

Even players that invest a lot of time and effort into the game don't necessarily have an equal opportunity.


Why not?

Chaise wrote:

Your second quote from the blogs only supports that players are likely to see a loss of equus due to the new items that will, ultimately, be required to be competitive. I have a 120 box EC that won't have any tack after they remove jobs. Tack won't appear out of thin air, it has to come from somewhere and crafting systems usually require more resource types than a single player can get by themselves. It's simple math.


Your simple math failed to take into consideration the excess items you produce which you can then sell to other players for profit - extra equus you didn't have before that you can use to buy any missing crafting items you need.

Arabians are best wrote:

As for the wearable tack, I'm just not interested in howrsey dress-up or the expense it's going to incur...plain and simple.


Currently there are 9 different saddles, 8 bridles, 4 types of horseshoes, Golden Apples, Helios Rays, Bell boots, Whips, Spures, Lunges, hoof picks, tubs of grease, horseshoe studs and probably a bunch of other things I have forgotten that we can give to our horses. This is already a dress up game, we just don't see some of the items placed on the horses yet... What difference will that and a few extra items make?
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dawnmeadow why isn't it a spoiler? What does Photobucket have to do with it?
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By Retired breeder, 20th March 2014 01:35:34
default smiley :oAhhh! Ugly Gypse Vanners! I mean...default smiley :-x
default smiley :@That new GV just made me hate them on the game now... default smiley xdIts like what the ugly I mean old Hanoverians used to look like... default smiley (8)
Retired breeder wrote:

TBs aren't great (they look so horribly underfed)

That is kinda how a TB is supposed to look actually default smiley :) The current coat looks to be about a 4 on the body condition scale, which is where a racing TB should be. Other horses should be about a 5 to a 6 but most TB's stay 4 to 5 because it's so hard to keep weight on them
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I breed gypsys on the spanish game, now that I've seen the new coats I am soooo unhappy, really quite ugly in my opinion
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Neferka wrote:

Currently there are 9 different saddles, 8 bridles, 4 types of horseshoes, Golden Apples, Helios Rays, Bell boots, Whips, Spures, Lunges, hoof picks, tubs of grease, horseshoe studs and probably a bunch of other things I have forgotten that we can give to our horses. This is already a dress up game, we just don't see some of the items placed on the horses yet... What difference will that and a few extra items make?


Personally, I have a huge stockpile of everything including tack. The only time I buy anything is when the promos require it. I have no doubt that the new tack will be like the pets, Falabella's, showers, scarecrows, backgrounds, beach rides etc. that if we don't invest in them, our EC/G-Prix howrses will suffer along with the regular howrses in everyday comps.

Dress-up is when you can see it and in order to see it, we are going to have to buy it. They are going to have to give us an incentive to force players to buy it which will no doubt be a skill advantage with the comps.

You say "What difference will that and few exta items make?" Can't say yet but I'm sure it will make a dent in our passes, equus and/or diamonds.

Of course there will be players that will happily buy the new tack....it just won't be me.
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