[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Jennifer Rice, 15th November 2019 20:10:20


What does this green star mean? I've posted this question on the Game Play Forum as well and not gotten an answer. Since I am a purebred QH NIB breeder, I wanted to ask on here as well. Thank you for any response default smiley :)
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By kooldogz7, 16th November 2019 19:19:25
Is anyone still doing Drums and Shire's?
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By Twinjodi, 16th November 2019 20:48:27
Hey Jennifer,

So green stars were the first "excellence stars" in the game and each star was equal to one. Now we have red stars as well that equal ten. The first original GP foundations (the 350-351.20) were bred together to progress to having a NIB Green star foal. Sometimes it took generations, where now it might take just one generation.

For example your horse Pit Boss does not have any stars at all. https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=9183890

His offspring here has two green stars
https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=61043146

Your horse Black Betty has 340 stars
https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=56900698

Hope that answers your questions!
Twinjodi
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By ʀoo, 18th November 2019 02:38:43
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I haven’t bred a horse for a long time so unfortunately I was surprised by the GP outcome of this first gen, but pleased it turned out to be a unicorn; I mostly get fails.
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By Misabel, 18th November 2019 03:51:44
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Sorry for the hiatus, guys. My real-life workload got really stupid for a while there; Plus I've been playing with real horses on my day off (started riding again after a 25-year break), which is when I usually visit the forum. Anyway, I've gathered up any new GPs posted since my last visit, and will send them to the mod who does the actual updating tonight.

Going back over posts it seems most are okay with including the generation to give better context to these GP numbers, so I will ask her to include that going forward.

There was some discussion about where a horse with both new and old GPs in the pedigree would fit in - the answer, which I believe came up back when we split the list to begin with, was that those horses would be listed in with the other rolling gains. I doubt that's going to come up often anyway, since the foal will most likely have a GP below that of its RG parent.

I've only had time to breed one NIB foal in the past month, but she's kinda nice.
Horse's Name: Amalia Bourienne
Horse's Breed :Thoroughbred
Current GP: 821.10 (27*) 5th gen
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=61064349
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By Jennifer Rice, 18th November 2019 20:12:03


Thank you Twinjodi, yes, that answers my question.
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By Jennifer Rice, 21st November 2019 22:30:41


I am wondering the same thing. I have purebred QH studs for coverings, just PM me and I can set up a covering.
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By Twinjodi, 24th November 2019 22:26:47
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Before I release them to the "public" was there anyone wanting/needing foundation Holsties? All up for grabs would be in my other horses tabs. I did message lbenedict15 about them and she didn't reply so I just wanted to double check with everyone else.
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By Twinjodi, 3rd December 2019 00:42:32
So Jennifer Rice asked me if we had a list of NIBbers somewhere. I know that someone has had prior lists put together somewhere... Would it help if we possibly created another forum in someone's EC to keep track of other NIBBers? I also know that there aren't a lot of us left, active or otherwise especially with the OGs.
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By Axel'sMommy, 5th December 2019 10:11:17
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Asfridur made the original list. I have it on my EC but it is overdue for an update. Y'all are more than welcome to post your names with what you are breeding/updates/etc or anything else if you would like. Once a few have posted, I'll update the list.
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By BRM, 6th December 2019 09:47:09


While not currently breeding I am collecting Morgans, both OG and RG. default smiley ^)
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By J’Lynn, 7th December 2019 16:22:26
I’m looking for a purebred Barb female, she doesn’t have to be foundation, a NIB foal is ok too (so long as both parents were blupped before being bred).
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By Philoselene, 7th December 2019 20:39:12
Is anyone selling any 350 gp (100 blup) foundations right now?
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By kittygirl03, 7th December 2019 21:20:16
I feel like this should be a more common thing on this website, as I'm pretty sure you can't do it in reality, but then again, it is just a game.
I have two foundies with 3410 GP... is this normal? They have a higher GP than my most popular unicorn stud (who isn't a foundie and has just under 3100 GP)
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By BRM, 7th December 2019 22:42:53


I have several RG Morgans that have the same GP. So it's likely that they're Rolling Gain Unis.
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By Axel'sMommy, 8th December 2019 09:12:42


Yes, the originals are 350-351.2 and then rolling gain has GP anywhere from a few hundred up to just over 5000 now for some breeds.
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By Retired breeder, 12th December 2019 00:57:59
i'm gonna start NIB Breeding Quarter Horses.
By Emma Haven, 13th December 2019 01:27:30
Anyone have any Foundation or NIB Thoroughbred mares or fillies?
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By J’Lynn, 15th December 2019 04:44:53
Anyone needing 350 Hanos on the US account?

Some have GAs, some are already blupped and others are plain with no wins yet. PM me here or on the US account (same user name).
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 15th December 2019 12:10:53
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I really think NIBing would survive if the game designers added one small addition to the sales choices. If we could look up horses for sale that were born from Ouranous and Gaia - Foundation horses.

That is the most frustrating thing - I have to hunt for horses sometimes and it is like looking for a needle in a haystack - especially if they are RG. Every once in a while a person will put foundation in the name of the horse. Or if they are original foundations you can look them up by the genetic potential of 350. But good luck otherwise!
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By BRM, 15th December 2019 22:10:48
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Omg, yaaaas. Especially RGs.
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By westernsky, 16th December 2019 06:47:03
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Anyone breeding KWPNs?
Or does anyone have a male (any age but preferably young for BLUPing) OG NIB/OG Foundie KWPN for sale?
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By Emma Haven, 17th December 2019 13:39:27


I only have one foundation stallion I am more then willing to reserve some breeds for you.I have been on the hunt for a foundation or NIB KWPN mare for what feels like forever.
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By westernsky, 19th December 2019 17:40:50
@EmmaHaven
It was seriously a miracle that I found my mare in the sales! I had been searching for a few days and she was the cheapest I could find for equus only without a ton of BMIs (at like a little over 100,000e I think which yikes still). OG foundies in the sales are ridiculously expensive it's crazy!
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