[Creation Space] Black Pearl Clarification

By Ow, 28th July 2020 10:33:59
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The Black Pearl



You need at least 60 days of seniority and 5 karma points to use the Black Pearl.

We want to clarify a few points regarding the proposals for the Creation Space.


Golden Apple


Using shadows:

You can use shadowing, but please keep it very light so that the images will fit with most backgrounds.


Cut out your edges more:

When we place the coats on a dark background, in some cases, there are stray light colored pixels around the drawing. This makes it impossible to use on a dark background.
Take a look at your coat on a white and on a black background, to get rid of any leftover smudges or pixels. Also, look a little further away at just the outline. Often, the coats have a smudge around the corners or along the border of the image.


Use the smudge or blur tool sparingly:

It's a pity to see a coat that has been worked on and then filtered with a blur filter, and it comes out all smudgy. It's also a pity to see a coat with smudge marks on one side and not the other.


Be careful when reformatting an image:

Sometimes we get drawings of "sausage horses" because the file has been altered, and the horse has been squashed or pulled in another direction. Also, avoid making your resolution too low and giving the picture a pixel art look.



Helios' Ray


Using brushes is allowed:

They can be used, but not in excess.
Seeing the same tree used four times in different backgrounds is starting to feel a bit repetitive, and it's also unfair. Since the aim of the Creation Space is to create things with your own hands, not to make photo manipulations. The same thing goes for photos.


Painting, blurring or smudging landscape pictures:

This is prohibited, and going forward, we may permanently ban players from the Creation Space for this.


Check the perspectives:

Please remember that the horse needs something to stand on. It's rather unusual to see a picture of a beautiful pond in the background while the horse appears to be floating in the middle of it.

The same goes for outer space, clouds, etc. The background should be usable for everyone, not just the Pegasus. Also, make sure the horses won't look like giants in the middle of a forest when you draw trees or other items.



Rules


Plagiarism is forbidden:

Plagiarism is taking someone else's work and passing it off as your own.
Respect the author's rights: don't steal images off the Internet; don't trace photos; don't use the basis of someone else if they have not given their authorization, preferably publicly.

You can draw inspiration from a style, a movement, or a coat without merely copying it. Use your imagination to express your unique personality and create something original.


Here's a quick recap of the things NOT to do in the Creation Space:

➞ Using 100% traced photos as a base for your work.
➞ Submitting AI-generated creations.
➞ Buying or selling a commission (purchased artwork).
➞ Drawing fanart (we don't ban players right away, but it could get us into trouble since we're monetizing it).

Players who submit an artwork not created by themselves, AI-generated, or plagiarized will be permanently banned from using the Black Pearl.

All the other rules still apply. Players who do not follow the rules are exposed to sanctions.



Before posting


On this topic you can:

➞ Learn more about the Black Pearl rules.
➞ Ask for help if you have difficulties to submit your creation.
➞ Post your work in progress and ask for artistic feedback.
➞ Post your creation and ask if it complies with the rules.


On this topic you CAN'T:

➞ Mock, ridicule, or accuse creations and creators.
➞ Ask for votes.
➞ Send suggestions or feedback. Those should be sent directly to Customer Support.
➞ Post excessive steps regarding your work to avoid flooding the topic.
➞ Report creations. For creations in the voting stage, use the Report feature. For creations in the game, please reach out to Customer Support.


You can promote your creations, or creations you voted for, on social media, using #HowrseBP. You can also promote your creations on your profile page.

Kind regards,
The Howrse Team
 
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By Retired breeder, 7th August 2020 14:09:48
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Thank you all! I really appreciate your feedbackdefault smiley (l)
By ZOwey, 7th August 2020 14:36:44
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Hello everyone, This topic is intended to be a place where creators can come if they are having trouble submitting their creations. As such, we expect that creators looking for help with technical issues might upload an image of their creation to get help with the process of submitting. However, it seems that this has morphed into a place where people are getting advice about the designs of their creations and also posting finished creations which brings up the concern of advertising for votes.. However, I understand the desire to ask fellow creators for advice with design choices or to get feedback on a design, I'm just not sure this is proper place for it. That said, we clearly don't have a specific place for that and there does seem to be some interest in having one, so I will bring it up with the team. Perhaps we can get a topic specifically designed for that so players who come to this topic for technical help don't have to wade through pages of unrelated comments to find it. So for now, let's only post creations here when you are in need of technical assistance and the screenshot is necessary to help explain your question. We'll make it a point to discuss creating an appropriate place to post your creations otherwise. Thanks for your understanding!
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By WhiteTiger, 7th August 2020 14:43:00
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ZOwey wrote:

That said, we clearly don't have a specific place for that and there does seem to be some interest in having one, so I will bring it up with the team. Perhaps we can get a topic specifically designed for that so players who come to this topic for technical help don't have to wade through pages of unrelated comments to find it.


Yay! Thank you so much ZOwey, I don't speak for everyone but I'm sure many, myself included, would love to see a thread where we can do that.
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By EmmaKate66, 7th August 2020 16:37:37
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ZOwey wrote:


That said, we clearly don't have a specific place for that and there does seem to be some interest in having one, so I will bring it up with the team.


Hi,

That would be great - because if players do need technical assistance they'll need the help of the coat-creating community. You will only grow, maintain and support that community if you allow discussions regarding inspiration, feedback, techniques etc. I would never have been able to get coats through the voting process if I hadn't been an active part of this thread over the years.

Players spend many passes to use the communities coats and clearly Howrse is seeking to encourage coat submission by suggesting themes, lowering prices and allowing earlier access.

Can we continue discussing work in progress etc until a new thread is created?
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By Retired breeder, 7th August 2020 18:31:22
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@ZOwey

I now get why the admin cleared the topic! Now that I think about it, I suppose posting pictures was asking for votes....
By Retired breeder, 9th August 2020 19:46:32
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Any tips for my next Golden Apple submission? default smiley :)

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By Retired breeder, 9th August 2020 19:53:00
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@Nymphadora97

ZOwey has just made a point of saying that this topic turned to something it wasn’t supposed to be. Please read her latest post.
By Retired breeder, 9th August 2020 19:58:08
Retired breeder wrote:

@Nymphadora97

ZOwey has just made a point of saying that this topic turned to something it wasn’t supposed to be. Please read her latest post.

Stupid of me, I didn't read that default smiley :o I'm sorry! Can someone remove my post?
By RowanGreen, 9th August 2020 22:01:27
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I think it depends what you mean by 'technical issue'. To me that rules out 'should it be black or blue?' but it does not rule out questions about problems with perspective, or proportions, or drawing techniques such as how to draw manes or shade well. Those are technical aspects of art.

So I think if Nyphadora97 asks a more specific question that isn't just a matter of opinion then I think it's OK.

This thread is going to be very dull and limited if it's nothing but page after page of 'how do I upload' and 'how do I get it on the template'.
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By Starynight, 9th August 2020 22:04:28
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RowanGreen wrote:

This thread is going to be very dull and limited if it's nothing but page after page of 'how do I upload' and 'how do I get it on the template'.


Indeed...
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By are37, 10th August 2020 03:16:43
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ZOwey wrote:

we clearly don't have a specific place for that and there does seem to be some interest in having one

I would love to see a place for that! A topic called "Black Pearl - Work in Progress Advice" or something. I haven't submitted coats but I love seeing the WIPs and reading the advice people give each other. It has always seemed like a very positive and friendly thread to me, and a lot of designs I've seen here have become something I'd want on my horses due to feedback given by other players about proportions, shading/coloring, common drawing programs and techniques, etc.
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By Dark-River, 10th August 2020 09:11:04
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ZOwey wrote:

<font color="#b402cf">Hello everyone,

This topic is intended to be a place where creators can come if they are having trouble submitting their creations. As such, we expect that creators looking for help with technical issues might upload an image of their creation to get help with the process of submitting.

However, it seems that this has morphed into a place where people are getting advice about the designs of their creations and also posting finished creations which brings up the concern of advertising for votes..

However, I understand the desire to ask fellow creators for advice with design choices or to get feedback on a design, I'm just not sure this is proper place for it.

That said, we clearly don't have a specific place for that and there does seem to be some interest in having one, so I will bring it up with the team. Perhaps we can get a topic specifically designed for that so players who come to this topic for technical help don't have to wade through pages of unrelated comments to find it.

So for now, let's only post creations here when you are in need of technical assistance and the screenshot is necessary to help explain your question.

We'll make it a point to discuss creating an appropriate place to post your creations otherwise.

Thanks for your understanding!


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On Two game version, they get a "Creativ Forum" (like "event" "Game Play" ...). In this forum, several thread for:
- rules reminder
- technical question (to send a Black Pearl)
- request for help on your creations (to have opinions, reviews / advice on morphology or coloring technique)
- Tutorial
- other creation (outside Howrse)
- our favorite creations (during votes)
- Free Lineart
- ...


It's really a special space for Black Pearl Creator! default smiley (7)
Sometime, we organise some contest between players default smiley :d



why not do the same ? default smiley :)
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By RowanGreen, 10th August 2020 13:50:13
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That would be amazing! Which servers are those on? Is it French and Czech?

Presuming I'm right, it would be great if there was something like that on at least one of the English Speaking servers.

The threads here and in VIP which talk about creative topics (eg Retired coats, favourite combo) seem to run really well and don't tend to get as controversial as some topics.
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By MIA_CZ, 10th August 2020 14:39:27
RowanGreen wrote:

That would be amazing! Which servers are those on? Is it French and Czech?

Presuming I'm right, it would be great if there was something like that on at least one of the English Speaking servers.

The threads here and in VIP which talk about creative topics (eg Retired coats, favourite combo) seem to run really well and don't tend to get as controversial as some topics.


As I know, it´s on the French and German versions, not in Czech. There are two themes for the creative space which are included in the Event forum in the Czech version - Creative Space and Creative Space for beginners.
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By Retired breeder, 10th August 2020 14:45:33
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On czech version we indeed have a forum thread meant for coats. Actually, we've got two.! One called "[info] Creative space" which is usually used for posting finished pieces or WIPs from long-time CS users and known artists, or even posting what we voted for and what we liked in voting! We can also share our "posters" with all creations we send in CS that month there.
Then we have "[Info] Creative space for beginners" which is almost the same, though people there usually post way more WIPs and ask for help and advices there. There's a really nice community in most part, people love to help each other and you usually get some nice tips and help with anatomy, shading, perspective or just generally tips that'd help improve and freshen your creation.

I honestly thought that this thread is meant for artists too, just like our two ones on czech version. I really loved to go through the pages here and see what people have created! It was such a shame this thread got wiped out (apparently it was because of the change of mods, I asked in the Game forum) and I at least hoped it could be filled again and start again. It's such a shame this thread is only meant for technical issues with submitting - as Rowan said, it's gonna be really empty here if it's only about that. It'd be amazing to see an actual thread for artists where they can show off WIPs, get advices and help and even maybe share the finished pieces, because who doesn't love to see the outcome as well.?
I'd sincerely love to see something like that there. On the versions where I was or still am - czech, slovakian, UK - they have a thread like that for these there, or at least I think so. I used to share my drawings on SK and UK as well. I'd simply like to see it here too and share my coats/landscapes here as well and get tips or advices from other people too.
By deimos, 11th August 2020 06:33:53
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Retired breeder wrote:

I honestly thought that this thread is meant for artists too, just like our two ones on czech version. I really loved to go through the pages here and see what people have created! It was such a shame this thread got wiped out (apparently it was because of the change of mods, I asked in the Game forum)


This is an Admin thread, it has nothing to do with mods and anyone who says so does not know the difference between Admin and mods.

We have a new Ow and most of the Admin posts are being reviewed and re-posted. This one was never intended to be a showcase for anything. That is what the Creation Space is for.

If Admin feel they wish to create an alternative thread they will do so as ZOwey has already said.
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By Retired breeder, 11th August 2020 17:54:38
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@Nymphadora97

Dont worry about it- we all make mistakes!default smiley ^)
By Starynight, 12th August 2020 19:45:09
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super random but found lots of old art files from my old laptop, when i used to use CS3/CS6... including three helios ray WIPs which i'm now going to try and finish on Krita. Used to love making backgrounds.
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By Retired breeder, 12th August 2020 20:03:20
I have a drawing I wish to submit, but I don't have seniority or enough passes to get a Black Pearl yet. So I hope there are future opportunities where I can submit a drawing. For hand drawn submissions do I have to convert it to a certain file? How big can the file be? I don't have Photoshop. Do I have to use it to submit drawings?
By FoxyDancer, 12th August 2020 20:46:50
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Retired breeder wrote:

For hand drawn submissions do I have to convert it to a certain file?
Yep, you'll need to erase any background and submit it as a transparent .png file for GA coats. For H Rays, you should submit as a regular .jpg file.
Retired breeder wrote:

How big can the file be?
Max file size is 2000 Kb.
Retired breeder wrote:

I don't have Photoshop. Do I have to use it to submit drawings?
Definitely not, there are many other free art platforms out there you can use to erase backgrounds / make sure your picture dimensions are correct / place your picture inside the templates, as well as pay to use platforms. Photoshop is just one of many.
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By WhiteTiger, 13th August 2020 19:14:55
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I hope there is an update soon to whether we will be getting this new thread. I want to post some pics and chat with other artists for some pointers! default smiley (lol)
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By Wolf of the North, 14th August 2020 05:24:27
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Retired breeder wrote:

I don't have Photoshop. Do I have to use it to submit drawings?


Gimp is free and is pretty decent. Not as much as photoshop has, but still plenty of stuff to use. Plus you can download more brushes.
Paint Tool SAI I don't think is free, but I think it's cheaper than PS b/c it's a one-time fee [I think].
FireAlpaca is also another free program comparable to gimp.
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By FantasticFoal, 17th August 2020 09:23:15
Could someone point me towards some good linearts please?
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By *Foxi*, 17th August 2020 11:33:41
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FantasticFoal wrote:

Could someone point me towards some good linearts please?


You can find loads by going onto Deviantart and just search up "horse lineart", you only need to check that you are allowed to use it on howrse. I do not want to toot my own horn but I do have tons available if you check my account "black-veil-illusion@DA".
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