[Creation Space] Black Pearl Clarification



The Black Pearl



You need at least 60 days of seniority and 5 karma points to use the Black Pearl.

We want to clarify a few points regarding the proposals for the Creation Space.


Golden Apple


Using shadows:

You can use shadowing, but please keep it very light so that the images will fit with most backgrounds.


Cut out your edges more:

When we place the coats on a dark background, in some cases, there are stray light colored pixels around the drawing. This makes it impossible to use on a dark background.
Take a look at your coat on a white and on a black background, to get rid of any leftover smudges or pixels. Also, look a little further away at just the outline. Often, the coats have a smudge around the corners or along the border of the image.


Use the smudge or blur tool sparingly:

It's a pity to see a coat that has been worked on and then filtered with a blur filter, and it comes out all smudgy. It's also a pity to see a coat with smudge marks on one side and not the other.


Be careful when reformatting an image:

Sometimes we get drawings of "sausage horses" because the file has been altered, and the horse has been squashed or pulled in another direction. Also, avoid making your resolution too low and giving the picture a pixel art look.



Helios' Ray


Using brushes is allowed:

They can be used, but not in excess.
Seeing the same tree used four times in different backgrounds is starting to feel a bit repetitive, and it's also unfair. Since the aim of the Creation Space is to create things with your own hands, not to make photo manipulations. The same thing goes for photos.


Painting, blurring or smudging landscape pictures:

This is prohibited, and going forward, we may permanently ban players from the Creation Space for this.


Check the perspectives:

Please remember that the horse needs something to stand on. It's rather unusual to see a picture of a beautiful pond in the background while the horse appears to be floating in the middle of it.

The same goes for outer space, clouds, etc. The background should be usable for everyone, not just the Pegasus. Also, make sure the horses won't look like giants in the middle of a forest when you draw trees or other items.



Rules


Plagiarism is forbidden:

Plagiarism is taking someone else's work and passing it off as your own.
Respect the author's rights: don't steal images off the Internet; don't trace photos; don't use the basis of someone else if they have not given their authorization, preferably publicly.

You can draw inspiration from a style, a movement, or a coat without merely copying it. Use your imagination to express your unique personality and create something original.


Here's a quick recap of the things NOT to do in the Creation Space:

➞ Using 100% traced photos as a base for your work.
➞ Submitting AI-generated creations.
➞ Buying or selling a commission (purchased artwork).
➞ Drawing fanart (we don't ban players right away, but it could get us into trouble since we're monetizing it).

Players who submit an artwork not created by themselves, AI-generated, or plagiarized will be permanently banned from using the Black Pearl.

All the other rules still apply. Players who do not follow the rules are exposed to sanctions.



Before posting


On this topic you can:

➞ Learn more about the Black Pearl rules.
➞ Ask for help if you have difficulties to submit your creation.
➞ Post your work in progress and ask for artistic feedback.
➞ Post your creation and ask if it complies with the rules.


On this topic you CAN'T:

➞ Mock, ridicule, or accuse creations and creators.
➞ Ask for votes.
➞ Send suggestions or feedback. Those should be sent directly to Customer Support.
➞ Post excessive steps regarding your work to avoid flooding the topic.
➞ Report creations. For creations in the voting stage, use the Report feature. For creations in the game, please reach out to Customer Support.


You can promote your creations, or creations you voted for, on social media, using #HowrseBP. You can also promote your creations on your profile page.

Kind regards,
The Howrse Team
 
Ow
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Am I able to submit my artwork that I’ve posted to social media prior? I have a ton of horse drawings I love that I’d like to submit but had a large following on ig where I shared it. Would this be an issue or could I provide proof that I am the original artist?
lilley1234
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As long as you are the original artist I believe it's fine, since promoting your creations on social media is allowed.
Angwen777
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So you cannot make one if u r under 60 days?
Layla Ann
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Angwen777 wrote:

Are you using the template for your art?


I draw separately, then add that drawn layer to the GA template.
I've done it that way in the past and it's gone through fine, just for the last two creations I've done, it's not accepting it!
Everything is within the border, transparent etc. I haven't altered the template size in any way, it's in the correct format, there aren't any stray pixels or anything ;(

Bit strange. I've submitted a ticket to contact us in case it's something on their end. I just can't figure it out!

Thank you though.

It's a shame there isn't a place in the creation space to preview your drawings ready for the next creation space to make sure you can send it through and to check your drawing.
Zephyrus23
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Layla Ann wrote:

So you cannot make one if u r under 60 days?

You need to have 60 days of seniority in order to submit a creation, yes. Also, keep in mind that you will need 195 passes per creation you want to submit. (you will get the passes back if your creation doesn't make it though)
Zephyrus23 wrote:

It's a shame there isn't a place in the creation space to preview your drawings ready for the next creation space to make sure you can send it through and to check your drawing.

Indeed! Sometimes you have a creation finished, but have to wait another 20 days just to CHECK whether it's the right format. Then you have 5 days (if you have the time to play) to correct it, maybe ask in the forum, wait for an answer, ask again, state that you've done it like the last time but howrse doesn't like it anyway... yay. >.<

Zephyrus23 wrote:

then add that drawn layer to the GA template.

is the GA template layer above the drawing? (Sometimes there are pixels I don't see, so that's the way to be sure. I know you said there are none. It's just the only thing I can think of =/)

If I remember correctly, there have been some players on the gameplay forum, saying that they had issues with the upload this month. So maybe it actually is on their end. I can't find the thread though. It might have been deleted in the mean time.
c(=Mieez
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Please, please, please change the algorithm AND the number of choices we can make, and the times we can pass.

Both yesterday and today while voting I got the same image twice. If the algorithm can figure out how many times I've voted, it can surely figure out WHICH drawings I've already voted on and delete those from the mix. It isn't fair that SOME drawings get the chance to get more votes simply because their drawing shows up more often (especially in one day) while others get no votes at all since those drawings never come up.

Many, many months I see the same images popping up, but there are so many more submissions that I never have the option to vote on.

Additionally, there are times we are forced to choose between multiple great choices one the page and we can only choose one.

We can vote on 50 per day, but there 1202 drawings entered this month.

50 votes per day times 10 days = 500 votes. With the duplicated entries, that cuts down that 500. That's not even 25% of the submissions.

There has to be a better more fairer way to vote on these submissions.

Why can't we simply pick our 10 per day choices from all the images entered, with the ones already picked deleted from the remaining choices?
Desertmorn
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Desertmorn wrote:

50 votes per day times 10 days = 500 votes. With the duplicated entries, that cuts down that 500. That's not even 25% of the submissions.

50 votes per day, 10 days is the choice between 1500 creations. That's why we run out of votes each month.
I kinda agree on the rest though. The voting system is not perfect. I haven't seen the same images that often though. But I'm out of votes before I've seen all of them (I keep track of my own creations that I've been able to vote on).

Maybe send your idea to "contact us" at the bottom of any page.
c(=Mieez
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Has anyone else noticed the huge uptick in AI coats this round? Not sure if anyone has ever played around with AdobeFirefly, but I went through and counted/screenshotted 15 creations that are SO clearly made by that program. Luckily they're so stylized that it's easy to tell, but as AI gets better I don't know how Howrse is going to filter them out...
Cadmium
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Cadmium wrote:

Has anyone else noticed the huge uptick in AI coats this round?

I've definitely spotted some suspicious coats this round and last round. Some coats are obviously AI generated, but with others it's harder to tell, especially with the small preview image size. At this point, whenever a coat seems 'too polished' or has that plastic-y style of rendering common with AI, I side-eye it. I feel really bad suspecting possibly innocent coats of being AI generated, so I usually don't report them unless I'm 100% sure. I really wish Howrse would go back to manually reviewing entries before voting starts.
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I'm worried that innocent artists' creations might get flagged for AI, especially in the future when it starts becoming more natural, so I don't want to even look out for that, much less report them! Especially new artists who haven't fully established themselves and their styles in the community yet... default smiley :s Creativity and art mean a lot to me, so I wouldn't want it to be ruined by anyone or anything that decides to cheat them. It's the same with music and writing! default smiley :( I really like art with flashy colors and unique designs, but that might be the type of stuff that AI usually generates, unfortunately... Color tinting and slight editing is fine, but not AI generating! That's par with photoshopping a camera-taken image. default smiley :@

Well, I'm going to vote for the creations that look colorful yet natural, I guess, because clearly AI can't draw in some of those patterns. Some of them still look stunning regardless! default smiley (7)
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Maybegirl wrote:

I'm worried that innocent artists' creations might get flagged for AI, especially in the future when it starts becoming more natural, so I don't want to even look out for that, much less report them! Especially new artists who haven't fully established themselves and their styles in the community yet...
There have been people who were flagged for AI because their creations were so great and detailed. But I've also read that they were able to proof that they had drawn it on their own (with a video for example).
I guess most artists are aware that they should keep some video or layered file to be able to proof it's their drawing. Mistakes have been made, like one person had to proof twice, because some admin overlooked it but when they reported it in the discord channel an admin answered they'd take care of this as soon as possible and they're sorry for the mistake. So, from what I've seen I'd say they take it very seriously and listen to you, if you have some evidence that you didn't use AI. This makes me feel better when I actually report some creations.
Sometimes I use the note field to write something like "please have a further look into this, I'm not actually sure about it" and I hope they do. I was more worried about reporting actual drawings by accident in the beginning. But in the past few months they have become that ... impudent? ... someone actually submitted a graphic from howrse itself, just with another color. Yes, it's no example for AI but ... this and very obvious AI art (or very suspicious maybe) made me feel like I *have* to report them. I prefer to have them (owlient) have a closer look at them over saying "aah, maybe it's just me thinking this. This might be a great artist.". Because if it is a great artist, I'm pretty sure, they'll find some way to proof they are. But I don't want to let someone pass who is submitting any AI creation.

So, to any artist out there: please keep some proof that you are the person who created your submission!
It doesn't have to be a video (I hope) - some apps create them automatically, mine doesn't. Just keep the file; I hope the different layers will help already.
c(=Mieez
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That makes sense, but I still sometimes worry. I once got a panic attack just THINKING that someone might think my work was made by AI even though no one actually mentioned anything like that to me. (Funnily enough, this happened in 2023, when it was already released, lol.) I'm also pretty sure my style isn't anywhere close to AI for people to suspect, lol. AI's already been out for 2.5 years now, and I doubt I would feel like that now since I've already worked through those feelings, so I'm sure most artists wouldn't worry about their work being suspected as AI so much, but you never know! So I would hope no other artist's self-esteem is affected by this. default smiley :s

I DO REALLY wish AI didn't become so popular, especially when I started getting serious with creative work (since I still have studies to do), but sigh, it is what it is. default smiley :@ So I decided to avoid AI entirely since it hardly helped with my creative work unlike other people apparently claimed it did. Whenever I tried, it gave me something that was totally against what I wanted and served as nothing but a distraction from my work. default smiley (d) As someone who probably has hyperphantasia (a condition where you have ultra-realistic imagination), I generate more ideas than I could ever VIRTUALLY, much less practically, ever make real, so I don't need something like AI to help me with that anyway. default smiley (8) (I don't even use reference pictures! default smiley (lol)) On that note, I don't really know what kinds of visual art AI really makes, since I've only really seen a few. I don't want to see anyway. default smiley (o)

There are quite some blatant rule-breaking art in the voting process which steal precious voting slots of REAL art (I don't know how the algorithm works other than grouping creations of the same type and species and not showing creators their own creations since I got a few creations that looked similar to each other, but it seems to mostly be random). Did that person think Howrse's art was public domain? I think recolors are fine if they got permission from the original artist (in this case Howrse) or if it was public domain, otherwise they shouldn't be allowed (same with line art). A lot of AI was trained on copyrighted work, too, so that would make ANYTHING generated with it a copyright strike in itself... default smiley :-x

I also do creative writing and dabble in music and video editing, and I don't know how you would show proof for those. Videos would be impossible since these usually take several months to several YEARS to finish. I guess maybe showing earlier versions or supplements of the work, though I don't know how well that would go down. (Writers, in particular, are VERY touchy about their first drafts. default smiley :p) Showing proof for visual art is easier, though, since it IS visual, including physical art, but in any general creative field, being suspected to have used AI is a sore thought for me. default smiley :-x

Going back to visual art, though (sorry for ranting, lol, it wasn't directed towards you at all, but towards people who think AI's better than actual creative people for some reason. default smiley (d) I just thought it might be relevant to the discussion to mention default smiley :)), I think it should be required to upload proof that you have created a work, so we can discourage people cheating art (this will also combat plagiarism which was already there WAY before AI). This doesn't just apply to Howrse, though, but anywhere you can be rewarded/paid for your art. Basically on the Black Pearl page, there could be another place where you upload your proof. (Hopefully on a different stage from where you upload your creation, since artists might accidentally upload it into the wrong area otherwise, especially if they're frustrated with Howrse not accepting their creation for a million unknown reasons. default smiley ^)) Since most artists already make proof whenever they draw, this probably wouldn't affect them too much, and this would also make newer artists aware that they should do it, too. Idk how this would work relating to server bandwidth and all, though (especially with videos), but maybe a project/vector file would be fine for digital work, at least. I don't think AI's gotten to the point where they can create art stroke-by-stroke yet, only pixel-by-pixel. default smiley ;)
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Maybegirl wrote:

I once got a panic attack just THINKING that someone might think my work was made by AI even though no one actually mentioned anything like that to me. (Funnily enough, this happened in 2023, when it was already released, lol.) I'm also pretty sure my style isn't anywhere close to AI for people to suspect, lol.

Same. (not exactly 2023 with released creations, but the rest of this ^^ )

Maybegirl wrote:

There are quite some blatant rule-breaking art in the voting process which steal precious voting slots of REAL art (I don't know how the algorithm works other than grouping creations of the same type and species and not showing creators their own creations since I got a few creations that looked similar to each other, but it seems to mostly be random). Did that person think Howrse's art was public domain? I think recolors are fine if they got permission from the original artist (in this case Howrse) or if it was public domain, otherwise they shouldn't be allowed (same with line art).

Recently, I've been through all the creations 2 days earlier, so I've reached the maximum of votes anyway. (so it's not actually "stealing slots" in my opinion ^^ )
I can see my own submissions.
I've seen that coat too, I don't know what that person was thinking.

I didn't think about other types of art. My video and earlier version suggestions were just about howrse so far. ^^

Maybegirl wrote:

I think it should be required to upload proof that you have created a work, so we can discourage people cheating art (this will also combat plagiarism which was already there WAY before AI). This doesn't just apply to Howrse, though, but anywhere you can be rewarded/paid for your art. Basically on the Black Pearl page, there could be another place where you upload your proof. (Hopefully on a different stage from where you upload your creation, since artists might accidentally upload it into the wrong area otherwise, especially if they're frustrated with Howrse not accepting their creation for a million unknown reasons. default smiley ^)) Since most artists already make proof whenever they draw, this probably wouldn't affect them too much, and this would also make newer artists aware that they should do it, too. Idk how this would work relating to server bandwidth and all, though (especially with videos), but maybe a project/vector file would be fine for digital work, at least.

I don't think players should have to check all of this though. Maybe we should go back to the admin (?) team checking the submissions before the voting phase. If we were to upload proof (which file type though? just any .* ? they need to be able to open it), they could have access to it.
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Hello everyone,

The main topic has been updated, and the topic rules have also been clarified. Please ensure that you read them to avoid going off-topic.


Before posting


On this topic you can:

➞ Learn more about the Black Pearl rules.
➞ Ask for help if you have difficulties to submit your creation.
➞ Post your work in progress and ask for artistic feedback.
➞ Post your creation and ask if it complies with the rules.


On this topic you CAN'T:

➞ Mock, ridicule, or accuse creations and creators.
➞ Ask for votes.
➞ Send suggestions or feedback. Those should be sent directly to Customer Support.
➞ Post excessive steps regarding your work to avoid flooding the topic.
➞ Report creations. For creations in the voting stage, use the Report feature. For creations in the game, please reach out to Customer Support.


Thank you and have fun playing Howrse! default smiley (ow)
AmOwzing
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Hey guys! I'm trying to get back into Black Pearl Helios Ray submissions, but I seem to be having some trouble formatting the image correctly for submission. I'm keeping the JPG file size below 2000kb, and the size of the submission is 2100 x 940 pxls. The frame is kept around the image, with the horse in the center removed. However, the game says I'm still not following the format. Is there anything I'm missing or doing wrong?
Aɴᴄᴀʟᴀɢᴏɴ
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The size should be 2106x940 pixels.
*This* might be the right one. (can't check it right now because my browser doesn't like me downloading stuff)
c(=Mieez
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Hey guys! im having some issues uploading my golden apple coat. The downloaded size is 400x400 pixels but when i try to put my drawing in and make it fit the 400x400 pixels it makes it blurry, and if i enlarge the template it wont let me submit it. Any tips or tricks?
Dasiy3902
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As an update, even at 400x400 it keeps saying it doesn't match the format...
Dasiy3902
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Hey,
* upload it with the frame
* the creation shouldn't touch the frame
* the format should be *.png (for coats) with a transparent background
* it has to be 400x400

Yes, it looks kinda blurry. You can try different types of scaling or even different programs maybe. Some programs are better at scaling than others.
c(=Mieez
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c(=Mieez wrote:

Hey,
* upload it with the frame
* the creation shouldn't touch the frame
* the format should be *.png (for coats) with a transparent background
* it has to be 400x400

Yes, it looks kinda blurry. You can try different types of scaling or even different programs maybe. Some programs are better at scaling than others.


Do you have any recommendations for programs? My drawing is currently on procreate, but everything i have tried has made it blurry
Dasiy3902
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I have a beautiful horse that i want to race in this event
viper1
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Dasiy3902 wrote:

Do you have any recommendations for programs? My drawing is currently on procreate, but everything i have tried has made it blurry

I'm using Krita for both drawing and scaling. Depending on the creation, I use "Bilinear" or "nearest neighbour" to scale it (undo if I don't like the result). I've read about other programs but I didn't note them anywhere since I thought my results look ... okay. Usually I rework some details after scaling though.
viper1 wrote:

I have a beautiful horse that i want to race in this event

To upload a creation you need to have 60 days of seniority (and 195 passes), so you'll have to be patient for a while (;
It's not an event though, it's creation space; repeating every month. So you'll have plenty of opportunities.
c(=Mieez
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I am so excited to hit the 60 days and start creating! I remember when I was younger and had an account on here so many years ago and wanted to create coats for horses… now I finally get to do it!!! It will be a fun challenge for me default smiley :)

Is anyone else excited to use it who hasn’t before? default smiley :ddefault smiley :d
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MsCapslock wrote:

I am so excited to hit the 60 days and start creating! I remember when I was younger and had an account on here so many years ago and wanted to create coats for horses… now I finally get to do it!!! It will be a fun challenge for me default smiley :)

Is anyone else excited to use it who hasn’t before? default smiley :ddefault smiley :d

Hello!

We can't wait to see your creations!default smiley (ow)

If you have any questions when the time comes, please consult this topic; it's filled with good information.

Have fun playing!
AmOwzing
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MsCapslock wrote:

I am so excited to hit the 60 days and start creating! I remember when I was younger and had an account on here so many years ago and wanted to create coats for horses… now I finally get to do it!!! It will be a fun challenge for me default smiley :)

Is anyone else excited to use it who hasn’t before? default smiley :ddefault smiley :d




Same default smiley :d

I had an account sometime around 2012, and I always wanted to create my own coat... but I couldn't figure out how to make digital art back then.


I've been drawing for a few years now. I'm very excited to actually try creating a coat, once I get the chance,
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