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By Retired breeder, 13th May 2017 10:40:41
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Thank you.
By Retired breeder, 13th May 2017 12:01:36
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I suggest there is a game where, with an old wild or divine horse, for example, 3 pieces to win 1 by choice of all available in the gamedefault smiley :)
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Maybe this new pass system wont be so bad. I mean earning a pass every 3 days does seem better than once a month. As for pass horses, I don't send that many to heaven in any case, so it wont affect me that much.
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What's this whole thing about the new
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On 4 servers (CZ, IT, BG and RU) pass horses are no longer a thing. The 31 passes we can get per month now are reduced to a possible 10 passes per moth. The loyal pass meter we have now will max out at 30 points instead of 300 and in order to get passes you have to earn a total of 30 points to get your pass, with a max of 10 poiints earned per day. Which means if you're lucky enough to get 10 points over the course of 3 days then you can get a pass every 3 days. What happens to older horses: When you send your first 10 horses that are 25 years or older to heaven you will get Yggdrasil. From then on, every time you send a horse 25 years or older to heaven you get tree rings for him that you can use to age him up. His appearance will change and you'll eventually get a photo album where you can scroll through all his appearance changes. Aside from the appearance change thing by adding these tree rings he does nothing else except that you can rename him. He offers no gift, you can't care for him which includes entering competitions. I created an account on the CZ server to play around with it myself, and from November (when it was implemented) until February players reported issues with receiving the 10 points like they used to, meaning it was taking them days to get a single pass. They went through about two more updates to it until April where Admin reported it was finally "fixed" and that it should be easier to get points now. Players have reported a more consistent earning in points, but others are still frustrated as they aren't earning 10 points every day no matter what they do. I've only logged on the CZ a couple times since the most recent update and received no more than 9 points the days I logged on and worked my account. It's not a reliable system in any way even if you do get 9-10 points the days you log in. If you miss one day of logging in you're guaranteed to *not* get 10 passes a month.
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I think when the new pass changes come I will be sending my oldie but goody horses to Safe Haven. At least that way you can earn some equus. I just don't want a divine horse that you can't really do anything with. I think that's part of the value of a horse or divine that it has potential.
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So basically everyone gets...

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a divine called Yggdrasil after sending horses past 25 years to heaven??
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obsidian wrote:

So basically everyone gets...

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a divine called Yggdrasil after sending horses past 25 years to heaven??


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He isn't actually classed as a divine (his species is Ancestral horse, or something similar, if I remember correctly), but yes, everyone can get him from sending 10 old (25+yo) horses to Heaven.
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Ohhhhh! Cool still
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About the K_____ divine:

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Introduction of this divine is terribly unfair to some uni teams as it's very hard for them to gain GP as fast as non-unis. The current foundation level is 4000... looking at the rankings, some of the best uni teams are:

-barbs: 4,335.82 GP
-brumby: 4,118.37 GP
-curly: 4,521.24 GP
-hanoverian: 3,810.49 GP
-irish hunter: 4,844.42 GP
-russian don horse: 4,186.58 GP
-standarbred: 3,951.42 GP

Please howrse... If you insist on releasing new uni foundies make their GP lower than current foundation level. Unicorn breeders are loyal players too!!!

I am sending a ticket to Contact Us to tell them how I feel about this... please do it too if you are influenced by this promo and believe it is unfair. Howrse listened to us in the past so our voice can make a difference!

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Introduction of this divine is terribly unfair to some uni teams as it's very hard for them to gain GP as fast as non-unis. The current foundation level is 4000... looking at the rankings, some of the best uni teams are:

-barbs: 4,335.82 GP
-brumby: 4,118.37 GP
-curly: 4,521.24 GP
-hanoverian: 3,810.49 GP
-irish hunter: 4,844.42 GP
-russian don horse: 4,186.58 GP
-standarbred: 3,951.42 GP

Please howrse... If you insist on releasing new uni foundies make their GP lower than current foundation level. Unicorn breeders are loyal players too!!!

I am sending a ticket to Contact Us to tell them how I feel about this... please do it too if you are influenced by this promo and believe it is unfair. Howrse listened to us in the past so our voice can make a difference!



This has my full support! Howrse needs to take into consideration that because Unicorns had been made harder to breed, to make them more valuable and rare, the GP of the top Unicorns are so much lower than the normal horse breeds. This new Divine has the potential to destroy many Unicorn breeding teams, that have dedicated many hours and passes to get where they are today.
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In my above post I meant 3000, not 4000 GP - thank you Aʀʀᴏɢᴀᴛᴇ for pointing that out!
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What does the K____ divine do
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Found it

I need that divine !
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so basically howrse must favour a few breeding teams consisting of 5- 10 members over a couple hundred thousand users, some of whom can't even get unis? You know, some times change is good.
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By Retired breeder, 15th May 2017 08:06:51
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I've got a couple questions about the new pass system:
Do you still need to get to 30 days of connection before getting the first points?
Which are the servers where it's already been applied?

Thanks on advance default smiley :)
Dante wrote:

About the K_____ divine:

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Introduction of this divine is terribly unfair to some uni teams as it's very hard for them to gain GP as fast as non-unis. The current foundation level is 4000... looking at the rankings, some of the best uni teams are:

-barbs: 4,335.82 GP
-brumby: 4,118.37 GP
-curly: 4,521.24 GP
-hanoverian: 3,810.49 GP
-irish hunter: 4,844.42 GP
-russian don horse: 4,186.58 GP
-standarbred: 3,951.42 GP

Please howrse... If you insist on releasing new uni foundies make their GP lower than current foundation level. Unicorn breeders are loyal players too!!!

I am sending a ticket to Contact Us to tell them how I feel about this... please do it too if you are influenced by this promo and believe it is unfair. Howrse listened to us in the past so our voice can make a difference!



Totally agree with the above, easy jump for a number of people and can ruin a teams work. Unis are especially hard to get GP up with the limited times and breedings, thus the reason for many teams keeping their sales low. Also added to the fact that the foundie unis have been valuable and a collectors item for a number of years, by introducing this it will drastically drop the value of foundie unis. Why not do something like Pegasus breeds you don't have? Seems like it would hurt a lot less people.
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∂α૨ƭɦ ѵα∂ε૨ wrote:

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so basically howrse must favour a few breeding teams consisting of 5- 10 members over a couple hundred thousand users, some of whom can't even get unis? You know, some times change is good.


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It's not favouring the teams, it is saying that uni GP is much harder to increase than regular horse GP - even draft GP is easier to increase - and asking that that be acknowledged in the GP of any foundies introduced to the game. They could just use a modified version of what we have now for setting foundie GP, but instead of it being based on the top GP in the game, base it on the top GP for unis of that breed. That way, people still get their unicorns but it is done without ignoring the work done by teams (or even individual breeders) to raise the GP of that breed.

It is a bit of a stretch to claim that some players "can't even get unis". Even mid-promo you can get a colt for around 40k, which is easy enough to make. Even the fillies are only around 80k right now, and that is with promo-inflated prices. If someone really wants a uni, they can acquire one easily enough for equus only (and no, that is not just me speaking as a senior player who has an easier time getting money - on the IT server I had more than 50k less than 10 days after registering, it just takes some work and money management). It won't be a foal with top GP or skills but it will be a starting point - if people want top GP and skills, they should have to work for it.
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Retired breeder wrote:

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I've got a couple questions about the new pass system: Do you still need to get to 30 days of connection before getting the first points? Which are the servers where it's already been applied? Thanks on advance default smiley :)
Yes,
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you have to reach 30 days of seniority to unlock the meter. This system is currently on the CZ, IT, BG, and RU servers.
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so basically howrse must favour a few breeding teams consisting of 5- 10 members over a couple hundred thousand users, some of whom can't even get unis? You know, some times change is good.
They are just saying that the
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GP of foundation unicorns this divine will crank out will render the GP of what some unicorn breeders have worked for pretty pointless since most foundation GPs are above 3000 right now. Top Brumby unicorns for example are at 4100 GP right now. According to the horse directories a foundation Brumby introduced today would have 2951 GP. Just a little over 1000 away from the top Brumby. What players are asking is that Howrse adjust how the GP of these foundation unicorns is released so they won't be off the top non-unicorns of the game. It's also not that hard to get unicorns. Unis are pretty cheap on this server, with many below 50k. On another server where unicorns are consistently more expensive I bought a 250k unicorn when I had 38 days seniority.
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By Retired breeder, 15th May 2017 14:29:35
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I played on CZ server for 3 years. I already have more than 1000 days on my account. I can only say, that this system is total bu****it. It is not possible to get one pass in 3 days. Its barely possible to get even 10 points. I got 10 points only once and even that was bug (double points). You can do anything, but still cant get 10 p in a row. If your lucky, you can get everyday like 7-8 points, but its super hard. Before update i had my own farm for oldies and everything was perfect - 10 passes per moth + 1 pass from meter. Now i have like 5-6 passes per month, what means I get pass once in 6 days!! Still like new system of passes?
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Well I know for a fact that the Arabian unicorns have a GP of over 7000, and quite frankly I highly doubt that howrse are going to have a divine that gives out uni foundies that's anywhere close to that. Yes, users that have a fairly good reserve can go buy unis for 40k, but what about those that don't have a large enough reserve for that? that's what I mean. As for the other unicorns with a GP of 3000 and what not, cant say I really care about them cause personally I don't work with other breeds and don't intend to. So goodluck trying to get howrse to change their mind.
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Yes, users that have a fairly good reserve can go buy unis for 40k, but what about those that don't have a large enough reserve for that? that's what I mean.


They save up money until they can afford to buy what they want, the way the rest of us did. If someone cannot make 40,000e to get a uni, they weren't overly invested in obtaining one in the first place.
An EC is basically a money farm if you don't use it for boarders and it only takes the bare minimum effort of remembering to plant/harvest crops (or cows) on time. An AP farm is a steady source of income if you only board in 20e ECs and do missions every day - plus you can cover the mares with your own studs and, as long as you 'bank' your equus in wheat bran to keep vet fees down, you can sell the foals for a 2-3k profit. Being sensible about which promos you enter and how much you invest can turn a decent profit for a bit of work, too (e.g. a few of the WHs can be obtained by anyone, such as Tundra, Rainforest, Forest etc. - even if they don't give equus directly, what they do give can be sold, especially as Rainforest gives MB which is high demand right now).
Money is not hard to make to those who are really trying, not even in the very early days. There are even quite a few helpful guides to making equus quickly dotted around the site (and the internet). The resources are there, people just need to use them.
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Woops. I forgot about uni teams... so if this K___divine does give out foals of a breed you don't own yet, they should indeed give out 350 foundies ONLY. If that divine start dropping out unifoals with GP as high as 2000-3000GP, some uni breeds (who came much later on into the game, and some uniteams sales will be completely wrecked... before they even have a chance to sell their stock, or get to that GP.

I am not competing in uni breeding, but I do like to get some smaller amount from foals I breed here and there. If this happens, even my sales will be wreckeddefault smiley (d)
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By Retired breeder, 15th May 2017 23:46:09
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No,
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this server does not have a new pass system. There is a new system on 4 other servers and it's supposed to come to other servers, including this one, eventually but we don't know when. For now, we still have pass horses. I explained the system in my first post that's towards the top of the page.
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Dante wrote:

About the K_____ divine:

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Introduction of this divine is terribly unfair to some uni teams as it's very hard for them to gain GP as fast as non-unis. The current foundation level is 4000... looking at the rankings, some of the best uni teams are:

-barbs: 4,335.82 GP
-brumby: 4,118.37 GP
-curly: 4,521.24 GP
-hanoverian: 3,810.49 GP
-irish hunter: 4,844.42 GP
-russian don horse: 4,186.58 GP
-standarbred: 3,951.42 GP

Please howrse... If you insist on releasing new uni foundies make their GP lower than current foundation level. Unicorn breeders are loyal players too!!!

I am sending a ticket to Contact Us to tell them how I feel about this... please do it too if you are influenced by this promo and believe it is unfair. Howrse listened to us in the past so our voice can make a difference!


Very well phrased Dante default smiley (y)

I'd love to see the return of the 350 GP's but that won't happen.
Sadly I doubt howrse will listen. Only comfort is that K___ needs 2000 points to unlock the gift.
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