Mikunotcheating wrote:

...Wow. i should have expected some ridiculous nonsense like this but I am somehow still surprised. I'd like to know who even uses the horrible mobile site because it's certainly not me. Also what's with the push over to Discord? You guys going to remove the forums entirely the next update?

Mikunotcheating wrote:

...Wow. i should have expected some ridiculous nonsense like this but I am somehow still surprised. I'd like to know who even uses the horrible mobile site because it's certainly not me.

berettaindy_37 wrote:

the blue when you a horse to bed on Mobile

Cranedaughter wrote:

It would have been nice to have seen the previous mess of a trophy update adressed before everything gets buried behind a new update instead.

Is the strategy literally just going to be not adressing it?

Mikunotcheating wrote:

Hiram Farmer, perhaps I am using a different site version than you? I have it up on my Android phone and it's so janky. I will tap on a horse to care for it and it will load some other random page, and scrolling is glitchy and impossible. That's why I'm so irritated because to me it feels like they're just adding more broken features to a broken website :/

Mikunotcheating wrote:

...Wow. i should have expected some ridiculous nonsense like this but I am somehow still surprised. I'd like to know who even uses the horrible mobile site because it's certainly not me. Also what's with the push over to Discord? You guys going to remove the forums entirely the next update?

Joblitzen wrote:

It's frankly disgusting that the trophies specify you have to APPLY the coat or companion in order to get the trophy. It was never like that in the past, purchasing a horse used to count towards trophies too. Why has Howrse removed purchasing horses as counting towards trophies, when purchasing horses is a fundamental function of the game?

The reason Howrse allowed players to sell and purchase horses is because that was a realistic function of owning and breeding horses in real life. This game was never about applying coats or companions to horses, that was just a fun bonus that allowed players to customize their horses. Nor was it about collection of horseshoes or clovers, and it wasn't about how many quests you went on with your divines or how many points you got with them either. Trophies were bonuses you got as you played your game however you wished, with a beautiful reminder of your effort you could once display on your page. Now it's a progress bar and a chore. Even if your goal was to own all the divines categories and have all those trophies, you didn't have to do anything special with your divines to obtain your collections trophy. The trophies mainly celebrated the horses you had - not what you could do with them, and it added value that there was more than one coat available for each item, and more than one divine available for each collection of divines. Because you couldn't just complete a trophy by having a bajillion of the same horse - there was a reason to collect the different ones. And that's the point of the sales, so you can buy horses you don't have. The trade force of players wanting to purchase divines and coats they didn't have to complete trophies used to be IMMENSE. But if trophies no longer account for, or severely undervalue the worth of having unique coats and divines, this driving force is stunted.

And think of the technical cost of applying 250 coats to horses (that's what my trophy is at right now). Every single 'coat' available costs a minimum of 100 passes, if we're just talking Golden Apples. That's 25000 passes, which, based off the prices in the store (I used pricing for the "most economical" pack) that would total about $242 USD. I don't know about you but I sure don't feel like spending $240 to achieve a trophy which will give me some points to fill a gauge which will give me a Fertility Wand or something. Even if I got a divine, it wouldn't be worth over two hundred dollars.

The reason that we have horse sales, and that we are able to price them for passes OR equus, is so we don't have to spend real life money to get the horses we want all the time. Not to mention that the said coats themselves are go for 100+ passes in the Black Market but are often worth LESS than what you pay for them in passes in the actual sales! The wandering horse coats, Book of Monsters, Magic Hat, 5th Element, the majority of those coats, if applied to a horse, would not go even close to 100 passes in the sales. It is simply overall not worth the cost you'd pay to achieve the trophy or the prize. Even Golden Apples, without additional items, are worth less than 100 passes. There are two horses sitting in direct sales right now priced at 90 passes with a Golden Apple. However, Golden Apples will go in sales for about 300k, even though technically speaking, 90 passes according to the game is equal to only 90k. Players are much more willing to spend equus than passes on horses they want. Howrse is trying to force players into spending passes by making it a trophy requirement to apply Black Market Items.

Are you going to wait for the events to grant you 250 Golden Apples, Magic Hats or whatever other customization item? Good luck, considering how stingy the events are now. You can't even BUY companions in the Black Market so you are forced to take part in events if you want to achieve your companion trophies. It's still going to take a very long time to complete these trophies, like YEARS (and some are downright impossible, like winning hundreds of rosettes with the same horse, who's brilliant idea was that?), if you don't spend a lot of money on them.

The collections are just an organized view of the horses you own - they have nothing to do with your trophies. Completing a collection no longer counts towards trophies, it only counts towards the numerary value the trophy states you must achieve. Applying 250 of the same Wandering Horse coat will be worth as much trophy wise as applying 250 different ones, which kind of makes the fact that there are different coats available for the same item moot. And of course, buying them has no effect on your trophies whatsoever.

Cranedaughter wrote:

It would have been nice to have seen the previous mess of a trophy update adressed before everything gets buried behind a new update instead.

Is the strategy literally just going to be not adressing it?

satirama wrote:

Discord doesn't make much sense to me... While it's more open, yes, it will have less people and less opinions. Is that what they want?