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The points are staying. They will NOT be removed. default smiley :)
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The points are staying. They will NOT be removed. default smiley :)


Ah that's nice at least. Still p sucky tho
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From the May preview on Instagram:

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Looks like we're getting unicorn Polish Koniks? And I don't know what the other two things are that are pictured there lol.
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Also, wow.

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With every new Great Challenge event, they make the premium key prizes worse and worse.
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Looks like we're getting unicorn Polish Koniks? And I don't know what the other two things are that are pictured there lol.


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Could it be a new chimaera? It looks like some sort of bunny with the ears...
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So key is not worth it for next event??
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I would wager a new
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pet horse, no?
Like the corgi, rabbits are popular pets..
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Might actually get the key for the next GC, ONLY to just have a Zebra on hand and then I can just use Eros eggs on him every time I get a free Jenny. Which, considering the fragments stay, I'm due to get one in the next GC. If they keep infinitely releasing the Zonkey series in them, I'll be getting a Jenny for free every couple years and can sell them after breeding and make a quick 100 passes or so in profit since they won't cost me a cent. Not entirely unhappy with this arrangement. I mean it's slow-burn and I'd much rather have useful things I actually care about, but hey. default smiley (h)
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I'm not understanding the talk going on about a trophy change...maybe I didn't go back far enough yet. Can someone explain please? They cannot seriously be getting ready to take away a NEW trophy already...I bought and skilled an expensive foal and got the second to last goal of like 2500+ Rosettes with him for that trophy. Loaded him up and spent hours and days entering Rosette comps. I don't use auto comp either. So if I'm understanding correctly, I will lose the trophies after all that work? Seriously...I will be hot! Howrse is about to outdo itself again. This cannot be real! Grrr. Hope I'm misunderstanding!
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From what I understand they're not going to take away progress you made towards the old trophy (that wouldn't make sense as if people got the prize from the trophies already, they couldn't take the prize AWAY from you) so if you have trophy progress it'll be grandfathered in.

So what you did with that foal you bought will still count, but once the update goes through and the qualification becomes "rosettes with a horse you bred", any rosette comps you win with him from that point on won't go to you, it'll go to his original breeder.

Which is still ridiculously unfair that your work to buy and train an expensive horse would all go to the person who paid a lousy 2500e breeding fee on him. I can't see anyone buying skillers anymore after this, not sure why anyone would. It also once again gives teams an unfair advantage - all they gotta do is breed and sell a few skillers and they can rake in trophy points and prizes without doing a lick of work. :/

I mean I don't buy rosette horses; I already gave up on the trophies on day 1 after losing out on my collection efforts and thousands of passes in expense towards those. Really soured me on gameplay, and broke my trust in Howrse. But it sucks that now they're trying to screw over an entirely different demographic of players who spent a ton of hard-earned passes to try for something that was promised and Howrse decided to take away for no apparent reason.
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From what I understand they're not going to take away progress you made towards the old trophy (that wouldn't make sense as if people got the prize from the trophies already, they couldn't take the prize AWAY from you) so if you have trophy progress it'll be grandfathered in.

So what you did with that foal you bought will still count, but once the update goes through and the qualification becomes "rosettes with a horse you bred", any rosette comps you win with him from that point on won't go to you, it'll go to his original breeder.

Which is still ridiculously unfair that your work to buy and train an expensive horse would all go to the person who paid a lousy 2500e breeding fee on him. I can't see anyone buying skillers anymore after this, not sure why anyone would. It also once again gives teams an unfair advantage - all they gotta do is breed and sell a few skillers and they can rake in trophy points and prizes without doing a lick of work. :/

I mean I don't buy rosette horses; I already gave up on the trophies on day 1 after losing out on my collection efforts and thousands of passes in expense towards those. Really soured me on gameplay, and broke my trust in Howrse. But it sucks that now they're trying to screw over an entirely different demographic of players who spent a ton of hard-earned passes to try for something that was promised and Howrse decided to take away for no apparent reason.


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What?! It will go to the breeder?! That is insanely stupid to break the market. No one will buy your skiller geldings anymore now.
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Crookedstar915 wrote:

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From what I understand they're not going to take away progress you made towards the old trophy (that wouldn't make sense as if people got the prize from the trophies already, they couldn't take the prize AWAY from you) so if you have trophy progress it'll be grandfathered in.

So what you did with that foal you bought will still count, but once the update goes through and the qualification becomes "rosettes with a horse you bred", any rosette comps you win with him from that point on won't go to you, it'll go to his original breeder.

Which is still ridiculously unfair that your work to buy and train an expensive horse would all go to the person who paid a lousy 2500e breeding fee on him. I can't see anyone buying skillers anymore after this, not sure why anyone would. It also once again gives teams an unfair advantage - all they gotta do is breed and sell a few skillers and they can rake in trophy points and prizes without doing a lick of work. :/

I mean I don't buy rosette horses; I already gave up on the trophies on day 1 after losing out on my collection efforts and thousands of passes in expense towards those. Really soured me on gameplay, and broke my trust in Howrse. But it sucks that now they're trying to screw over an entirely different demographic of players who spent a ton of hard-earned passes to try for something that was promised and Howrse decided to take away for no apparent reason.


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This is entirely unfair!
This is coming from a person who has just recently joined a team and only trains skillers I've personally bred, though the mother will often be one I've purchased from direct sales and trained. I also never purchase skillers.
Technically, this rule will not affect me much, and I am still incredibly annoyed!

Not only does it destroy the market, I can also see it backfiring for teams. No one will want to buy skillers if they can't reap the rewards, which means prices will either drop or teams will struggle with selling their skillers. Even if teams manage to do so, they are "winning" for the wrong reasons. They are getting the benefits of time and effort from another player. This is simply unjust, period. Effort should be rewarded, not the amount of offspring you breed.
Besides, if skiller prices do not drop through this change, it is a sick trick to fool players into purchasing a pretty horse with zero benefits.

I have sold many, many high GP Thoroughbreds under my affix. I don't want to be getting the benefits that rightfully belong to the purchaser. The equus/passes earned was enough, that horse is no longer my horse, which means I no longer have a say in what happens or how successful they are.

Howrse, please don't do this! You've made enough unnecessary, disliked changes.
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Famousamos wrote:

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I'm not understanding the talk going on about a trophy change...maybe I didn't go back far enough yet. Can someone explain please? They cannot seriously be getting ready to take away a NEW trophy already...I bought and skilled an expensive foal and got the second to last goal of like 2500+ Rosettes with him for that trophy. Loaded him up and spent hours and days entering Rosette comps. I don't use auto comp either. So if I'm understanding correctly, I will lose the trophies after all that work? Seriously...I will be hot! Howrse is about to outdo itself again. This cannot be real! Grrr. Hope I'm misunderstanding!
This is from the Log
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The change log is still in French, but google translate did its best. "Waves" is "rosettes"

"In order to harmonize the functioning of the trophies, we are changing the functioning and the name of the trophy entitled "Flot per horse". Here are the changes applied:

Changed trophy name -> " Champion Breeder "
Changed the description of the trophy -> " Be the breeder of a horse having won X streams "
Change of trophy category: Competitions -> Breeding
You must therefore be the breeder of the horse that won the waves to progress in this trophy. The waves won by horses in the breeding of another player but of which you are the breeder count for your trophy. Conversely, streams won by horses on your farm but not born there will count for the trophy of the player who spawned them. The modification is also retroactive: the horses you bred and then sold will earn you points in this trophy.

It should be noted that the gauges of the trophy will be modified accordingly. If you gain milestones with this modification, you will receive points/gifts as normal. If you end up with a lower trophy tier than you had before, we won't reduce your gift gauge."

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What?! It will go to the breeder?! That is insanely stupid to break the market. No one will buy your skiller geldings anymore now.

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Players can still buy skillers if they want to compete in the Grand Prix, the monthly rosette ranking, and horse rosette ranking. There will still be a market, but we don't know how much it'll be affected

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an update I care for. I don't like the amount required to max it as is. I'd almost rather nix the trophy altogether, than have the new requirement.
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I still think it will break the market, people would stop buying males and go for the females only. If I was in a breeding group and playing seriously I would not like this update and I would see why they would be upset. There is no point to buy it for GP because the only ones that would do good in GP are mostly the foals that are sold and you have to put bmi’s and training and a good companion and all into that horse to have a chance, the skillers filled with bmis and trained who are sold are not skilled enough to get a podium on GP.

So this means you will have to throw bmis and time into a horse that will have no gain winning rosettes with and maybe get a change at winning the prix. After putting so much time effort and bmis into that horse you want to get some rosettes out of it as well. I am definitely not buying skillers anymore from sales now
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ty lee ✿ wrote:

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I still think it will break the market, people would stop buying males and go for the females only. If I was in a breeding group and playing seriously I would not like this update and I would see why they would be upset. There is no point to buy it for GP because the only ones that would do good in GP are mostly the foals that are sold and you have to put bmi’s and training and a good companion and all into that horse to have a chance, the skillers filled with bmis and trained who are sold are not skilled enough to get a podium on GP.

So this means you will have to throw bmis and time into a horse that will have no gain winning rosettes with and maybe get a change at winning the prix. After putting so much time effort and bmis into that horse you want to get some rosettes out of it as well. I am definitely not buying skillers anymore from sales now


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Completely agree! People buy skillers either to win rosettes or very rarely win the Grand Prix. Skillers are typically geldings with a GP lower than the GP release. Literally the only benefit buyers buy skillers for will be taken away, and sellers will no longer have a reliable income through skillers.

While this challenges players to train or breed and train their own skillers (which will lead to heavy purchases of mares), think of how much this will increase the rate of GP, which in turn makes it difficult to train up a successful skiller.

The most important thing is how wrong it is, at the root of it. Again, reward players for their hard work (which satisfies the buyer, as they've purchased the horse and want to see the benefits of such a purchase), not for how many foals they can produce and distribute!
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Even when they know they won't win, players will buy
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gelded skiller preps simply to get top 100 for the weekly grand prix ranking to get fountain access. You don't need top top GP for that. There are others who buy top horses to help boost their EC comp prestige as well

I don't like the update either, but there will still be some desire to buy skillers and preps., which is what I'm pointing out. The trophy isn't the *only* reason to buy, although it is a big one
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I agree Sophia. Its just seems a very smart way of the game developers to get their players to spend more passes and more money because that is the only gain I am seeing here. I don’t see this as a change that is made for the players or the game but hopefully Howrse will elaborate on this to make what seems like a crazy decision look valid default smiley xd
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When I sell a teared foal, I do so with the knowledge that whatever happens to it is no longer within my control, I certainly don't expect to profit from someone else's work and success with it. It is nice that we will keep the points, but potentially removing the percentage already earned? That's insanely unfair and an insult to the work that the players put into getting it in the first place.

It's like buying a canvas and doing an amazing piece of artwork on it, then selling it, with the credit going to the person who sold the canvas, not the artist.
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Should clarify on the second part, I am more so referring to someone making a piece of art, but the seller of the canvas getting the credit for it instead. Not sure where the selling part came from. (other than the fact I only really just woke up default smiley (lol))
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I think whats getting to me the most is that all the rosettes I have won through hard work, dedication, and real money are now going to be handed to the player who only bred the horse.

I'm the one who thousands of passes training the horse
I'm the one who spent months carefully entering comps
I'm the one who won 4000 rosettes - not the original breeder!

I like the analogy one player thought of - It's like you bought a canvas, painted a piece of art, then its the person who made the canvas that gets the credit/rewards for your art work!

It's mind blowing how Howrse think this is okay... I've never been this close to quitting before... 4100 rosettes that now not only don't earn me anything, but are actually being given to someone else.

It's beyond insane
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I've sent the above to contact us as well default smiley :(
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Bell_z wrote:

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I think whats getting to me the most is that all the rosettes I have won through hard work, dedication, and real money are now going to be handed to the player who only bred the horse.

I'm the one who thousands of passes training the horse
I'm the one who spent months carefully entering comps
I'm the one who won 4000 rosettes - not the original breeder!

I like the analogy one player thought of - It's like you bought a canvas, painted a piece of art, then its the person who made the canvas that gets the credit/rewards for your art work!

It's mind blowing how Howrse think this is okay... I've never been this close to quitting before... 4100 rosettes that now not only don't earn me anything, but are actually being given to someone else.

It's beyond insane


Right?
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In this case I would like all of my - not the breeders -

Passes + Equus
Iris Coats
Custom Clips
Button Plaitings
Horsetails
Medusa's Blood
Kairos Dial
Bonus Packs
Achilles Heels
Philotes Strokes
Water of Youth
Chronos Timers
Poseidon's Packs
Morpheus Arms
Philosophers Stones
and Companions

back, so I can use them on my own horses. After, of course, I use 20 something A Tears to try and get optimal IBS.

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Okay. So the drop rate for Jenny, at least on Prepod, is insanely high.
I started with 230 frags from a previous event--- and on my first Tyche's crown I received 1,225 fragments! (If only I was that lucky in real life XD) Then, with 505 fragments left over, I opened the Crown again and got 931 fragments and another Jenny!! SO then I decided to try a third time- 873 fragments. Fourth time, 1,178 fragments.
5: 1036
6: 754
7: 1112
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someone censor my last post XD It's innacurate
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Bell_z wrote:

I've sent the above to contact us as well default smiley :(


I will do same if they go through with it. I just returned playing and I already lost interest in playing it seriously now and spending money.
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