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Bucephalus' Perk.

It's such a bad idea to introduce bonuses that cannot be controlled. How fun to try and sell Grand Prix-horses when the placings might be messed up because someone's lucky enough to get the bonus on that particular day but somebody with a better horse didn't.

I *really* hope the bonus does NOT apply to the grand prix.



Falabellas have the same perk...
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Thank you for information on the next promo, and clue's.
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is there a picture of the new legendary horse?
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By Retired breeder, 30th September 2015 00:06:58
Can anyone confirm or deny if there was double points when opening HOPs the second time they're offered during the P_____ promo or if they're only offered normally the whole time?

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Can anyone confirm or deny if there was double points when opening HOPs the second time they're offered during the P_____ promo or if they're only offered normally the whole time?

Thanks!


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On prepod they were only offered once. They were offered in previous Pinatas in or about when we got to Pinatas11-13 and they are not double points but points that increased the higher you got in the number of pinata done.

Here is my history of points received from pinata 14 forward.

#20

Opening a Horn of Plenty 560 Monkey 2015-09-20 12:35
Opening a Horn of Plenty 535 Monkey 2015-09-20 12:35
Opening a Horn of Plenty 555 Monkey 2015-09-20 12:35
Opening a Horn of Plenty 522 Monkey 2015-09-20 12:35
Opening a Horn of Plenty 506 Monkey 2015-09-20 12:35
Opening a Horn of Plenty 494 Monkey 2015-09-20 12:35
Opening a Horn of Plenty 439 Monkey 2015-09-20 12:35
Opening a Horn of Plenty 463 Monkey 2015-09-20 12:34

#19

Opening a Horn of Plenty 514 Penguin 2015-09-20 12:33
Opening a Horn of Plenty 447 Penguin 2015-09-20 12:33
Opening a Horn of Plenty 506 Penguin 2015-09-20 12:32
Opening a Horn of Plenty 534 Penguin 2015-09-20 12:32
Opening a Horn of Plenty 466 Penguin 2015-09-20 12:32
Opening a Horn of Plenty 485 Penguin 2015-09-20 12:32

#18
Opening a Horn of Plenty 423 Parrot 2015-09-20 12:29
Opening a Horn of Plenty 469 Parrot 2015-09-20 12:29
Opening a Horn of Plenty 531 Parrot 2015-09-20 12:29
Opening a Horn of Plenty 463 Parrot 2015-09-20 12:29
Opening a Horn of Plenty 434 Parrot 2015-09-20 12:29

#17

Opening a Horn of Plenty 265 Bear 2015-09-20 12:26
Opening a Horn of Plenty 205 Bear 2015-09-20 12:26
Opening a Horn of Plenty 241 Bear 2015-09-20 12:26
Opening a Horn of Plenty 251 Bear 2015-09-20 12:26
Opening a Horn of Plenty 225 Bear 2015-09-20 12:26
Opening a Horn of Plenty 265 Bear 2015-09-20 12:26
Opening a Horn of Plenty 249 Bear 2015-09-20 12:26
Opening a Horn of Plenty 208 Bear 2015-09-20 12:26
Opening a Horn of Plenty 232 Bear 2015-09-20 12:25

# 16

Opening a Horn of Plenty 207 Sea lion 2015-09-20 12:25
Opening a Horn of Plenty 264 Sea lion 2015-09-20 12:25
Opening a Horn of Plenty 249 Sea lion 2015-09-20 12:25
Opening a Horn of Plenty 208 Sea lion 2015-09-20 12:25
Opening a Horn of Plenty 240 Sea lion 2015-09-20 12:24
Opening a Horn of Plenty 223 Sea lion 2015-09-20 12:24
Opening a Horn of Plenty 220 Sea lion 2015-09-20 12:24

# 15

Opening a Horn of Plenty 245 Lion 2015-09-20 12:23
Opening a Horn of Plenty 200 Lion 2015-09-20 12:23
Opening a Horn of Plenty 244 Lion 2015-09-20 12:23
Opening a Horn of Plenty 254 Lion 2015-09-20 12:23
Opening a Horn of Plenty 238 Lion 2015-09-20 12:22
Opening a Horn of Plenty 230 Lion 2015-09-20 12:22

# 14

Opening a Horn of Plenty 131 Hippopotamus 2015-09-20
Opening a Horn of Plenty 120 Hippopotamus 2015-09-20
Opening a Horn of Plenty 125 Hippopotamus 2015-09-20
Opening a Horn of Plenty 119 Hippopotamus 2015-09-20
Opening a Horn of Plenty 102 Hippopotamus 2015-09-20
Opening a Horn of Plenty 134 Hippopotamus 2015-09-20
Opening a Horn of Plenty 101 Hippopotamus 2015-09-20
Opening a Horn of Plenty 135 Hippopotamus 2015-09-20
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Aoife wrote:

Falabellas have the same perk...

Well no, they do not.

Falabellas have a chance giving a bonus when you apply for a competition. Apply to enough competitions and you'll inevitably get the bonus. This is something you can control as long as you don't run out of competitions which happens even rarely on smaller servers in disciplines with few competitions. It is a bonus that is implied when buying a Grand Prix horse, like. If you don't have it (and the correct one from the right competiton) you don't win.

This is a completely random bonus you cannot control in any way. I mean I don't even like the 5th element because of the randomness, but at least you can save up elements in your inventory and try several times. But this just turns the Grand Prix into a lottery.
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Retired breeder wrote:

Can anyone confirm or deny if there was double points when opening HOPs the second time they're offered during the P_____ promo or if they're only offered normally the whole time?

Thanks!


This time -

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There is no double points BUT it seems the point values have been massively increased. To add to Spyder's numbers - here are mine from Pinata 4 on up.

*Note that I used more than 5 Pinatas - but as this is how many I opened before a few of them broke, I decided to use the first five to get the average:


Pinata 4: 15, 12, 16, 16 (14 points)
Pinata 5:15, 18, 13, 12, 16, (14 points)
Pinata 6: 33, 31, 31, 29, 26 (30 points)
Pianta 7: 35, 27, 28, 26, 34 (30 points)
Pinata 8: 28, 25, 29, 35,(28 points)
Pinata 9: 50, 59, 61, 50, 52, (54 points)
Pinata 10: 69, 59,52,70, 61, (62 points)
Pianta 11: 59, 57, 59, 50, 50, (55 points)
Pinata 12: 102, 108, 110, 113, 139 (110 points)
Pinata 13: 129, 137, 115, 125, 119 (125 points)
Pinata 14: 102, 140, 125, 138, 112 (123 points)
Pinata 15: 279, 273, 201, 237, 262, (250 points)
Pinata 16: 251, 251, 275, 234, 242, (250 points)
Pinata 17: 279, 269, 201, 262, 228 (247 points)
Pinata 18: 496, 428, 448, 512, 420 (460 points)
Pinata 19: 522, 500, 536, 526, 468 (510 points)
Pinata 20: 542, 525, 559, 493, 558 (535 points)
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phönix wrote:

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Bucephalus' Perk.

It's such a bad idea to introduce bonuses that cannot be controlled. How fun to try and sell Grand Prix-horses when the placings might be messed up because someone's lucky enough to get the bonus on that particular day but somebody with a better horse didn't.

I *really* hope the bonus does NOT apply to the grand prix.


Personally, I don't think it would make much of a difference myself;

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The bonus is just +3 to the Dressage skill for a single day if the translation has gone through correctly. Considering that most top breeders probably will get Bucephalus, I can easily see their horses getting his bonus as well. And considering that most people who are competitive with the Prix use the top horses made by them...I feel it wouldn't be too hard to find a horse with that bonus for the Day.

To me, it's no different than if I buy a horse with the Falabella bonus and enter them in the Grand Prix for that day (even if it's not the right bonus for the event that day (ex. the one for Trot races...It would still have a bonus for Dressage).

However, I think the best thing to do at this time is to Wait until we start testing to make any final conclusions about whether or not this will hurt the Prix/market for Prix horses.
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Yes but
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My problem is that the bonus only lasts for one day, at random. I can still age away and get a new falabella bonus as I wish, and increase my chance to get it by buying more falabellas. +3 is still quite a bit, especially if the GP gains are very small and on servers less competetive.. meaning the raising of GP is not as fast. A horse having a 5th element can and has caused problems in the past for my team on the swedish server so this most certainly could.

The problem is that it shakes around the placings of the Grand Prix in a manner nobody can control. The price we sell the geldings depend on the placing it'll get. Add an Uncontrollable bonus to this. ugh.. No thanks :/ I mean, say the person breeding the foals do not get the bonus, then sells the foals and 2 people with the divine does, then those 2 horses have an advantage a 3rd one cannot do anything to also get. As long as the horses *do* get the bonus from the divine when sellign there's not a problem, as the bonus doesn't stack :P

But yes, Well have to wait and see, and it might be changed like the Zaldia-bonus .. :P

I'll get it anyways though, so I guess it doesn't matter *that* much for me but I don't like random when it comes to the prix

I don't mind divine/VIP-priviledges but don't make it random, please lol
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ShorahNagi wrote:

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The bonus is just +3 to the Dressage skill for a single day if the translation has gone through correctly. Considering that most top breeders probably will get Bucephalus, I can easily see their horses getting his bonus as well. And considering that most people who are competitive with the Prix use the top horses made by them...I feel it wouldn't be too hard to find a horse with that bonus for the Day.

To me, it's no different than if I buy a horse with the Falabella bonus and enter them in the Grand Prix for that day (even if it's not the right bonus for the event that day (ex. the one for Trot races...It would still have a bonus for Dressage).

However, I think the best thing to do at this time is to Wait until we start testing to make any final conclusions about whether or not this will hurt the Prix/market for Prix horses.


I agree. Also, there are so many bonuses already, it's just 3 points, why should we always have to follow "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer".
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Does anyone know when the promo is supposed to start?
(I'm not sure if this needs a spoiler. Sorry if it does)
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Shorah - 3 points makes a world of difference in the prix, even if dressage is the third highest skill. That 3 points can take you from first, with a prize of 8 passes, to nothing.

Further, since Divines can't be aged, this is the very definition of a lottery. There is no control over when that bonus will appear or won't appear.

I'm a top player and place in prix events regularly, but I am not trying for this legendary. In fact, I haven't tried for any of them due to the heavy pass cost and low return as far as perks. However, a perk like this can completely wreck the skillor-buying market if the perk is allowed to apply to the prix.

Get enough of these things on the game and it's almost a guarantee that every prix event will be affected every day.
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By Retired breeder, 30th September 2015 10:45:53
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Ok so what is the next event?
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When will the next event come? I kinda can't waitdefault smiley ;) default smiley :p
Miss Blue wrote:

I'm a top player and place in prix events regularly, but I am not trying for this legendary. In fact, I haven't tried for any of them due to the heavy pass cost and low return as far as perks. However, a perk like this can completely wreck the skillor-buying market if the perk is allowed to apply to the prix.

Yes, that's what I'm afraid will happen, I really hope this divine changes or that the translation is incorrect :P

I mean I *will* be getting the divine but that doesn't matter because the bonus is random, I'll still be able to lose everything... I mean I don't even buy passes so those 8 passes from the Grand Prix makes a large difference :/
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I thought the promo started today at 8 Eastern Time? Where is it?
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For those asking about the start of the next promotion, there is / was no guaranteed set time for it to start. All we know for certain is that it will start sometime in the coming days, but we do not have an exact date. All we can do is wait and see.
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By Retired breeder, 30th September 2015 14:15:04
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When will the next event come? I kinda can't waitdefault smiley ;) default smiley :p
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1st of October, or the 5th of October default smiley ;)

But that isn't guaranteed! default smiley :s
By Retired breeder, 30th September 2015 17:17:03
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So, the next event is supposed to be the Pinatas, correct?
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So, the next event is supposed to be the Pinatas, correct?


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