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By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 02:14:07
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Yeah, unfortunately you have to use passes. You just won't get enough free moves to complete it. The special offer won't be in HOPs next promo, it'll be in TCs, and you can find from 6-10 Treats (free moves) on Level 3 of the TC. So either way you'll have to use passes.


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Well that's it, I'm just going to collect as many prices as I can along the way. I do not have enough passes to finish the first maze. default smiley :@
Do you have a copy of the first maze without your directions on it? I need to map out the route I want to take that has the most prizes.
By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 02:16:35
Two more questions:
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Does anyone know when the maze is going to occur? And has anyone found out anything about the snowball fight and when that's happening?
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Can someone please explain the known details about this Map promotion? When will it be and how is it supposed to work? default smiley xd
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By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 03:53:03
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Can someone please explain the known details about this Map promotion? When will it be and how is it supposed to work? default smiley xd


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Look at disco513's post on page 1557 for more information.
Here's something they posted:

Don't think anyone knows the exact date but I'm guessing it should be around the time this promo ends, maybe a bit after to give us a few days break? Not entirely sure.
@clearviatares2

All the info you need is here:

Info about next promo!
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@chickennugget

About the map-

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Unfortunately, I don't have one without the lines on it, and I can't get out of my current maze because I'll lose my place. If you wait like 2 days I could get it for you then? But here's a pic of the map with the route on it. You should still be able to see the candies pretty well. (And even if I were to give you a map without the route, we've already picked up some of the gifts and I don't know where exactly they were. My suggestion would be to follow the route, but just branch away from it to pick up gifts whenever you see one that's close enough?)



As to your other questions...

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The maze will happen after this current promo. Probably will start on the 7th of January, if it keeps going with the theme of promos starting on Thursday and ending on Monday.

And no, we don't know when exactly the snowball fight will occur.
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By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 04:29:51
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It will take 14-16 passes to complete the Vintage Apple maze.


Are you kidding me?
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They are going to make us spend 14-16 passes to get the *Vintage Apple*? In my humble opinion, that is what should be spent to get through the lower DIVINE maze if you wait to do it (Horus), not the VA maze! If you're going to do that, add a Falabella or *something*. Something to make it worthwhile.
A Vintage Apple (in my opinion) is not worth anywhere near 14-16 passes! Two or three, maybe, but that many? default smiley (n)default smiley (n)
This will be the first promotion that I will not worry about waking up or staying up until certain times to get moves. I'm debating even participating at all, right now. That is just ridiculous.
Since my question was not answered, does anybody know when there will be more divines offered through some bmi's? default smiley ^)
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By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 08:39:57
Howrse is making this all so expensive (passes) that no one is going to participate!H
By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 08:45:48
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It will take 14-16 passes to complete the Vintage Apple maze.

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on the condition that they always will get to the third level
By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 10:35:17
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Yeah, unfortunately you have to use passes. You just won't get enough free moves to complete it. The special offer won't be in HOPs next promo, it'll be in TCs, and you can find from 6-10 Treats (free moves) on Level 3 of the TC. So either way you'll have to use passes.


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Man that sucks, I really liked the look of those divines, but I'm not about to spend all the money I have getting them.

Thanks anyway default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 11:24:45
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Is it possible to get any of the gift items in any board or the good gifts are only in boards that are accessible after the VA board?
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Players will be able to find sweets and such along the way, so 14-16 is the maximum number of passes it should take to complete the maze, even with a couple of TCs that don't get them anything. I made the mistake of not counting the number of sweets along the way, but there were quite a few.
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Elks wrote:

Since my question was not answered, does anybody know when there will be more divines offered through some bmi's? default smiley ^)


Nobody knows when divines are offered through BMIs - they just happen on random occasions. Only a couple of mods may know at the time, though they can't tell us what they are (e.g. when the last two season divines came into the BMIs and Shorah knew, but didn't/couldn't tell us what divines they were).
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Retired breeder wrote:

Are you kidding me?

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They are going to make us spend 14-16 passes to get the *Vintage Apple*? In my humble opinion, that is what should be spent to get through the lower DIVINE maze if you wait to do it (Horus), not the VA maze! If you're going to do that, add a Falabella or *something*. Something to make it worthwhile.
A Vintage Apple (in my opinion) is not worth anywhere near 14-16 passes! Two or three, maybe, but that many? default smiley (n)default smiley (n)
This will be the first promotion that I will not worry about waking up or staying up until certain times to get moves. I'm debating even participating at all, right now. That is just ridiculous.


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Nobody is making you spend the passes to get the Vintage Apple - and by the time you pick up all of the sweets along the way in the maze, the number of passes could be reduced dramatically (I don't know how many will be needed as I don't have a map with every sweet indicated along it, so I can't calculate the lowest number of passes needed. If anyone has that information I would be more than happy to look into it). With all of the good BMIs that you could find at any point in all four mazes (Morpheus Arms, Titans Challenge, etc) I would say that those passes would be well-spent. I personally am going to try and complete all four mazes if I can.

I will try and get a more accurate number of passes needed at the lower-end of the scale - I just wanted to put that up so that everyone would know the *maximum* number of passes that may be spent on this promo.
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Retired breeder wrote:

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Is it possible to get any of the gift items in any board or the good gifts are only in boards that are accessible after the VA board?


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Yes - you can find all gifts on any of the four boards, no matter what you may have already found. (e.g. If I found one MA on the first board, I could still find another MA on any of the boards, including the first board.)
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*Updated calculations - passes needed for next promo in spoiler!*

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So I managed to find where all of the sweets are by checking my history of moves on the mazes, so the following calculations should be the *minimum* number of passes needed for the promo.

Maze 1 - Vintage apple
Steps needed = 259
Sweets found = 48
Free steps = 48 x 3 = 144

259 - 144 = 115 steps needed
5 free steps at beginning of maze -> 115 - 5 = 110 steps needed (2200 paces)

If completing straight away...
-> 110 / 8 = 13.75 TCs needed (approx 28 passes)

If waiting for free steps...
-> 120 free paces (6 steps) per day
-> 2200 / 120 = 18.33 days to complete without passes (usually promos last from 18-21 days - so this maze CAN be completed without passes!)

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Maze 2 - Golden Apple + Nyx Pack
Steps needed = 42
Sweets found = 8
Free steps = 8 x 3 = 24

42 - 24 = 18 steps needed (18 x 20 = 360 paces)
No free steps at start of this maze!

If completing straight away...
-> 18 / 8 = 2.25 TCs needed (approx 6 passes)

If waiting for free steps...
-> 120 free paces (6 steps) per day
-> 360 / 120 = 3 days to complete without passes

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Maze 3 - Divine Horus
Steps needed = 123
Sweets found = 21
Free steps = 21 x 3 = 63

123 - 63 = 60 steps needed (60 x 20 = 1200 paces)
No free steps at start of this maze!

If completing straight away...
-> 60 / 8 = 7.5 TCs needed (approx 16 passes)

If waiting for free steps...
-> 120 free paces (6 steps) per day
-> 1200 / 120 = 10 days to complete without passes
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Pictures for previous post in spoiler!

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Maze 1 - Vintage Apple (sweets are dark blue spots - please follow light blue path!)


Maze 2 - Golden Apple and Nyx Pack (sweets are orange spots)


Maze 3 - Divine Horus (sweets are orange spots)


*I still don't have the maze map for Thoth through the teleporter, so I didn't calculate anything more for his maze!*
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By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 13:45:31
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Are there going to be any more special promotions besides the use of HoPs for the tree event? Will the use of HoPs come back next weekend?
By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 15:08:17
SpeedySonic2 wrote:

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Maze 1 - Vintage Apple (sweets are dark blue spots - please follow light blue path!)


Maze 2 - Golden Apple and Nyx Pack (sweets are orange spots)


Maze 3 - Divine Horus (sweets are orange spots)


*I still don't have the maze map for Thoth through the teleporter, so I didn't calculate anything more for his maze!*


Hi Sonic2

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in MAYE1 you have any faults in the path default smiley ;) Look on my correction
- red X = wrong path
- yellow circle = this path not does profit or loss
- red line = new path (better like your]



By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 15:11:37
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in MAZE1 you have any faults in the path - look on my correction
a) red X = wrong path
b) yellow circle = this path not does profit or loss
c) red line = new path (better like your)



Retired breeder wrote:

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in MAZE1 you have any faults in the path - look on my correction
a) red X = wrong path
b) yellow circle = this path not does profit or loss
c) red line = new path (better like your)





I've made a few changes to your suggestion...

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With a few points, you are right (I removed one of the sweets per yellow circle just to focus on one), and changed the path to copy yours. However, I removed only one of the sweets you crossed out in red - the rest of them still give one free move, which has brought the calculations down to this (still following the light blue line, and the dark blue indicates sweets to go for!)...


237 steps needed
46 sweets found
46 x 3 = 138

237 - 138 = 99
100 free paces (5 steps) at start of maze = 99 - 5 = 94 steps needed

If completing straight away...
-> 94 steps = 1880 paces
-> 94 / 8 = 11.75 TCs needed (approx 24 passes)

If waiting for free steps...
-> 94 steps = 1880 paces
-> 120 free paces (6 steps) per day
-> 1880 / 120 = 15.66 days to complete without passes

So now the number of days and passes have been reduced further! Thank you MifakM_CZ for your corrections! default smiley ^)
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By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 15:56:45
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I've made a few changes to your suggestion...


I still think that you have mistakes in path default smiley ;)

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for example :
moving from N3 to sweets on N5 need 2 steps (40 paces). Benefit form sweets is 3 steps => we end on N2 (with 2 steps)
If I will not go for the sweets on position N5 ends at the position O2 (with 2 steps)
By Retired breeder, 20th December 2015 16:00:13
The same problem is on :

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sweets position :
R1
Q15
G11
E15
G8

Suma 6 steps (with moving on sweets on N5)
@MifakM_CZ

Ah, my brain is fried. default smiley xd

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Are there any other corrections that could be made then? I'll work on correcting the maze map and calculating everything again-
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